| 22 Apr 2023 |
 oddlama | In reply to @aktaboot:tchncs.de
okay I see 👍. Also is this stage1/2 thing nixos specific ? I couldn't find info from other distros no, other distributions just don't call it stage 1 (the initramfs stage) and stage 2 (the actual system stage). | 13:50:14 |
 @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | Yea the systemd docs try to exclusively use the terms "initrd" and "host" for what we prefer to call "stage 1" and "stage 2" respectively | 13:50:58 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | initramfs is another commonly used name though since it's technically more accurate (no one uses literal ramdisks anymore, which is what rd stood for) | 13:51:24 |
 @aktaboot:tchncs.de | oh okay so stage2 ends with pivot-root iiuc ? | 13:52:11 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | stage 1 ends with systemctl switch-root (or switch_root in the traditional initrd) | 13:52:40 |
| oddlama | no stage 1 pivots to stage 2 | 13:52:42 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | stage 2 just shuts down when it ends | 13:52:54 |
 @lily:lily.flowers | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
Lily Foster: Yea I see. I just can't figure out why the assertion didn't trigger for me Oh, yeah, no clue there | 13:53:00 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | i.e. when you power off / reboot | 13:53:02 |
| @aktaboot:tchncs.de | okay so stage2 is just the normal os stuff :) | 13:53:09 |
| @aktaboot:tchncs.de | thanks for the clarificatiosn 👍 | 13:53:35 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
stage 2 just shuts down when it ends We could designate the final shutdown ramfs pivot stage-3 (/s) | 13:53:39 |
| @aktaboot:tchncs.de | * thanks for the clarifications 👍 | 13:53:40 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | I didn't wanna mention that :P | 13:53:51 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | but yep | 13:53:53 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | we kinda technically have a stage 3 | 13:54:00 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | it's just exceptionally simple | 13:54:08 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | It's just the systemd-shutdown binary going on a merciless killing spree and then eventually dumbly running some executable hooks without any sort of logical ordering | 13:54:52 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | ok seriously wtf I cannot figure out why that assertion isn't triggering | 13:57:38 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | oh, I derped and forgot to have boot.initrd.systemd.enable = true | 14:02:34 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | And I took for granted that if nixosTests.installer-systemd-stage-1.zfsroot evaluated, that meant it would succeed. But I'm testing that now and I expect it won't | 14:03:14 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | Because it's not the initial machine config that has systemd stage 1 enabled. It's the installed machine. So it'll fail when the installer tries to install it | 14:03:54 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | and yep there it goes | 14:04:04 |
| @aktaboot:tchncs.de | is stage-1 ran automatically by giving the script to the initrd/ramfs ? or rather to the bootloader that will call it in the initramfs ? | 14:17:22 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | The boot loader loads the initrd image from the disk and the kernel unpacks it into memory and runs /init | 14:17:53 |
| @aktaboot:tchncs.de | I could not find where printing the <<< NixOS Stage 1 >>> string happens 🤔 | 14:20:19 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | I think that's just in stage-1-init.sh isn't it? Which is only for the scripted initrd, not systemd initrd | 14:20:52 |
| @aktaboot:tchncs.de | yep thanks :)\ | 14:21:36 |
| @aktaboot:tchncs.de | * yep thanks :) | 14:21:38 |
| @aktaboot:tchncs.de | huh, I thought that that would be /init in the initrd | 14:22:43 |
