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| 16 Apr 2023 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | flokli: I think I've addressed all the comments on the networkd PR. Can we hit the merge button sometime soon? | 00:47:23 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | flokli: If flushBeforeStage2 is a blocker, let's split that out into a separate PR. I'm just confused why its a question now when it's been a part of scripted initrd for a long time. | 16:34:03 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | * flokli: If flushBeforeStage2 is a blocker, let's split that out into a separate PR. I'm just confused why it's a question now when it's been a part of scripted initrd for a long time. | 16:34:22 |
 @hexa:lossy.network | not sure what is unclear about setting the network down before leaving stage1 | 16:39:03 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | I consider that a mandatory step to not break network settings that stage2 wants to apply | 16:39:36 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | hexa: the systemd-networkd man page suggests not bringing things down before stage 2 so that everything stays configured all the way through. I think for the typical case, the configuration in stage 2 and stage 1 will be the same, so this seems fine to me? | 16:40:46 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | i.e. DHCP on interfaces X, Y, Z, and that's about it | 16:41:01 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | what if I try to rename a link in my stage2? | 16:41:11 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | I would say that's atypical | 16:41:19 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | and you can set flushBeforeStage2 = true for that :) | 16:41:28 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | basically what you're saying is that people should configure their whole networking in stage1 as opposed to stage2? | 16:42:01 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | No? | 16:42:15 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | For stage 1, most people probably just want DHCP on one or all of the physical interfaces, as configured typically with networking.useDHCP or networking.interfaces.... Then stage 2 can take over network configuration and add any fancier things on top of that, but presumably most people will still want those same interfaces configured with DHCP | 16:44:28 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | * For stage 1, most people probably just want DHCP on one or all of the physical interfaces, as configured typically with networking.useDHCP or networking.interfaces... (often generated by nixos-generate-config). Then stage 2 can take over network configuration and add any fancier things on top of that, but presumably most people will still want those same interfaces configured with DHCP | 16:44:48 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | so your intent is to save one DHCP roundtrip in that scenario | 16:45:50 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | My intent was mainly to follow the suggestion in the systemd-networkd man page, and it made enough sense to me to make it default but still implement the flush behavior for those who want it | 16:46:41 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | but also | 16:46:42 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | there's things like root on NFS that would rely on having flushing disabled | 16:46:52 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | personally I configure a dedicated IPv6 address in stage1, and something else in stage2, so that I don't get conflicting hostkeys on SSH 🙂 | 16:47:03 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | no strong opinion, as you said I can enable flushing | 16:47:44 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | * no strong opinion, as you said I can enable flushing and I will | 16:47:50 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | since it is configurable I don't see it as a blocker fwiw | 16:48:34 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | the default also doesn't bother me too much | 16:48:44 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | Yea I think we'll leave flushing disabled by default when systemd initrd is enabled (and enabled by default with regular initrd, since that's the existing behavior). flokli does that sound ok to you? | 16:49:52 |
 flokli | Sorry, i was busy with family stuff all day and couldn't get to reply on messages | 16:50:45 |
