| 31 Oct 2022 |
 @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | But hopefully there's some kind of explanation for stage 2 in git history or a PR thread somewhere... | 18:35:04 |
 @oxalica:matrix.org | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
oxalica: I could be wrong but doesn't systemd automatically include the udev rules in its own out path? Have you confirmed that they aren't actually currently in use in stage 2? :thinking: Seems systemd-analyze cat-config udev/rules.d do contain upstream rules even without that PR. But I double checked that vconsole-setup do break iff we don't explicitly include rules... | 18:40:36 |
| @oxalica:matrix.org | * 🤔 Seems systemd-analyze cat-config udev/rules.d do contain upstream rules even without that PR. But I double checked that vconsole-setup do break iff we don't explicitly include rules... | 18:40:51 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | I'm not sure that systemd-analyze command is doing what you think it is. When I list the files in my /etc/udev/rules.d/ on my desktop, it has nothing in common with the stock systemd udev rules | 18:52:58 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | which seems quite odd indeed... | 18:53:05 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | maybe there was a commit where systemd was accidentally removed from services.udev.packages? | 18:54:42 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | for instance there's these lines that have to do with a udev rule that's in systemd but not installed on my system: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/15a051a5b64c8b8bd7c402d102ec273df807e897/nixos/modules/services/hardware/udev.nix#L147-L149 | 18:55:25 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | I eval'd config.services.udev.packages in nixos versions back to 19.09 and systemd was never in there. Though interesetingly, udisks is newly missing in nixos-unstable, but was there from 22.05 and backwards | 19:07:38 |
| @oxalica:matrix.org | My vconsole-setup issue is spotted from around 2022-09-12
https://matrix.to/#/%23stage1-systemd%3Anixos.org/%24hY0xc__Lg14Fy8aUCcfYc-rq42MHNePejrnhxQHgTSY?via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de&via=helsinki-systems.de&via=ckie.dev | 19:11:19 |
| @oxalica:matrix.org | * My vconsole-setup issue is spotted since around 2022-09-12
https://matrix.to/#/%23stage1-systemd%3Anixos.org/%24hY0xc__Lg14Fy8aUCcfYc-rq42MHNePejrnhxQHgTSY?via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de&via=helsinki-systems.de&via=ckie.dev | 19:11:47 |
|  @tinybronca:sibnsk.net changed their display name from underpantsgnome! to underpantsgnome. | 20:29:29 |
| 1 Nov 2022 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | While working on the systemd 252 update, I noticed that the hibernate-systemd-stage-1 test is already failing on hydra. There are way too many units getting started before the hibernation resume unit does. | 01:31:14 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | When you resume from hibernation, ideally initrd has started only the units necessary to bring up the resume device | 01:32:50 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | I wonder if we're missing a unit from upstream or something | 01:33:07 |
 flokli | I think some tests with systemd-initrd are "known to be broken". We should probably at least add a comment on these, so people know what to expect. | 07:26:18 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | Uh. They weren't broken before. They should be fixed | 07:28:39 |
| flokli | Nixpkgs bisect go brr then, i guess | 08:04:11 |
| flokli | Sheesh, there needs to be some better regression tracking. | 08:04:29 |
 Arian | What's the point of CI if breakages never cause any alarms 🤷♂️ | 08:14:11 |
 @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | In reply to @arianvp:matrix.org
What's the point of CI if breakages never cause any alarms 🤷♂️ We had that at some point… didn't end well | 10:39:27 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | Janne Heß: forgive my ignorance. What happened? | 10:46:42 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
Janne Heß: forgive my ignorance. What happened? Couple of releases back, don't remember exactly why but hydra started blasting out thousands (millions?) of mails. Probably because downstream breakages are not properly factored in so when something like gcc breaks, everything breaks | 10:48:39 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | Also there's downstream things that are fixable by restarting but by the time they are restarted, the mails are already out | 10:49:12 |
| 2 Nov 2022 |
 @linus:schreibt.jetzt | I heard yubikey luks stuff doesn't (or didn't at some point) work in stage1 yet, is that known/in progress/fixed/other? | 15:45:14 |
