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systemd in NixOs's stage 1, replacing the current bash tooling https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/projects/5127 Servers

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3 Oct 2022
@oxalica:matrix.org@oxalica:matrix.org I'm still waiting for https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/189676 for non-password LUKS unlocking 13:45:46
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4 Oct 2022
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianoh thanks for the poke07:03:02
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI agree with that the increase in initrd size is worth it07:03:33
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianlets merge once rebased07:03:39
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI can press the button for you today 07:04:09
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li Ok, I just added the FIDO2 test by oxalica. There is one weird thing that I noticed, but other than that the PR seems ready to go. 08:40:22
@flokli:matrix.orgflokliWe can't really put this as a blocker for the release. Feature parity is quite off still, no?20:51:28
@flokli:matrix.orgflokli (in reply to Arian 20:51:45
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org flokli: I don't think we're talking about blocking the release on systemd stage 1 being default or anything. Just unhiding the docs for now 20:54:47
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI don't want systemd stage 1 to be default until the docs have been unhidden for at least one release20:55:14
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org but feature parity is basically just missing the fancy luks stuff and networking, so I feel fairly comfortable unhiding docs this release, assuming we can get the two PRs for those things merged by next release 20:56:03
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgbasically I just want it to go from "experimental" status to "beta" status20:57:23
@flokli:matrix.orgflokliYeah, unhiding the docs is probably something that can be done before the release, if they're "ready enough", and what's still not supported is documented somewhere accessible enough21:04:07
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgYea the work required it's non-negligible. We've got some docs that need improvement and (IMO) we need to avoid duplicating all the systemd docs yet again.21:05:08
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org But it's not a ton of work 21:05:16
@flokli:matrix.orgflokliI'm worried figuring out all the small bits to get the last 10% to work will be much more work than expected21:06:03
@flokli:matrix.orgflokliLike, networking, root on NFS/iso/...21:06:20
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI think we're very close to already being there.21:06:25
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgLike on the networking PR I commented the remaining open questions and they're not far fetched21:06:50
@flokli:matrix.orgflokliThere's so much domain specific knowledge hacked into brittle shell scripts, with not too much test coverage 21:07:03
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgI think someone is even using NFS root right now21:07:07
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org colemickensIIRC? 21:07:21
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgwe do also need to fix the iso though. Frankly I don't know how the current one functions at all lol21:07:50
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens ElvishJerricco: I was, but have dropped it due to NFS issues and kept having issues rebasing your net PR. But yes, it did work just fine. 21:07:53
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li I have one more question about #189676/cryptenroll: Should we include the tpm kernel modules by default, or should we drop this for this PR? 21:08:01
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens(and by fine, I mean it actually worked whereas the non-systemd-network has racey issues)21:08:08
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickens Zhaofeng Li I was just about to ask that, and about whether or not the fido2-device arg is needed or if it's implied to be auto? 21:08:31
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org
In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li
I have one more question about #189676/cryptenroll: Should we include the tpm kernel modules by default, or should we drop this for this PR?
yea so that's a pretty small thing in the grand scheme. Enough to block the PR on, but not enough to move systemd stage 1 into "documented and beta" status
21:09:34
@colemickens:matrix.orgcolemickensI guess someone is likely to notice they need the modules as they enroll, so at least they wouldn't be likely to reboot and be unexpectedly having to enter their password due to modules missing.21:09:39

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