| 20 Sep 2022 |
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| 23 Sep 2022 |
 @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | Zhaofeng Li: While I'm largely OK with https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/189676/ I had another thought about the patch. Couldn't we just change that hard coded absolute path to something in /etc and configure said directory in NixOS with environment.etc rather than taking on the risk that we could be wrong about relative paths being safe? | 01:23:13 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | Just seems like changing the path and populating it would be a less severe change | 01:24:31 |
 Zhaofeng Li | If we add it in a fixed runtime path, something like /run/opengl-driver (I remember an RFC to change the name) seems better than /etc | 02:14:24 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | sure, either way | 02:14:45 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | just seemed better than patching actual code, y'know? | 02:15:04 |
| Zhaofeng Li | Actually /run/opengl-driver doesn't appear to be very extensible at the moment 🥲 | 02:17:29 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | yea i've had ideas for things to do similar to that but there isn't really a good mechanism in place. That'd be a nice improvement to make to nixos | 02:18:38 |
 @oxalica:matrix.org | In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li
If we add it in a fixed runtime path, something like /run/opengl-driver (I remember an RFC to change the name) seems better than /etc is /run already populated in initrd stage? | 02:40:36 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | Not exactly so we'd have to also set it up separately in initrd before luks devices start coming online. | 02:47:23 |
| @oxalica:matrix.org | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
Not exactly so we'd have to also set it up separately in initrd before luks devices start coming online. mounting another tmpfs just for this seems not convincing | 03:44:41 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | i mean it's the same tmpfs | 03:45:08 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | /run is the same from before anything starts in stage 1 all the way to the very end of shutdown | 03:45:33 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | well, systemd starts as pid 1 in stage 1 and mounts /run, /dev, /proc, and /sys before starting anything | 03:45:58 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | but yea we would have to do the setup twice, once in stage 1 and once in stage 2 | 03:46:32 |
 @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | But who populates /run in stage 1? | 08:15:46 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | We're about to rebuild the activation script from stage 2 here | 08:16:25 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | Janne Heß: It'd just have to be a service with Before=cryptsetup-pre.target | 08:16:35 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
We're about to rebuild the activation script from stage 2 here (as a brief aside, arguably stage 1 and stage 2 should actually be almost the same infrastructure, and it should simply be possible to make a NixOS config that's as stripped down as stage 1 needs to be) | 08:17:56 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
We're about to rebuild the activation script from stage 2 here * (as a brief aside, arguably stage 1 and stage 2 should actually be almost the same infrastructure, and it should simply be possible to make a NixOS config that's as stripped down as stage 1 needs to be; main difference between the two being make-initrd-ng closures instead of nix closures) | 08:18:30 |
 K900 | Now that I think about it, I wonder if we could do a crime on WSL | 08:20:06 |
| K900 | And basically have initrd-as-root | 08:20:14 |
| K900 | And reuse all the systemd-in-stage1 stuff | 08:20:30 |
| K900 | For context, the latest WSL update added native systemd-as-PID1 support | 08:20:56 |
| K900 | But it doesn't have a good way to run the activation scripts | 08:21:09 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | Maybe a question for #wsl:nixos.org ? | 08:21:42 |
| @elvishjerricco:matrix.org | I believe I've mentioned before that my zeroth attempt at systemd in stage 1 was literally just doing a nested nixos eval with lots of hacks stripping things out and then putting that in an initrd :P | 08:21:47 |
 Arian | Happy to commit crimes on WSL | 08:21:54 |
| K900 | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
Maybe a question for #wsl:nixos.org ? I've been posting there about my experiments with wrapping systemd | 08:22:50 |
| K900 | So far kinda feels like the wrapper route is still easier | 08:27:16 |
