| 29 Jun 2023 |
 @lily:lily.flowers | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
I thought I had built the options JSON thingy with hidden options included and scanned over them all a while ago I mean maybe most of these were supposed to stay hidden. I think I've found 5 more | 20:26:32 |
 ElvishJerricco | In reply to @lily:lily.flowers
Was boot.initrd.systemd.users and stuff specifically supposed to be left hidden ElvishJerricco? I never had an opinion on that... | 20:26:47 |
| ElvishJerricco | It's certainly kind of an internal thing | 20:26:54 |
| ElvishJerricco | but also feasible that people would need it | 20:26:59 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | I'll unhide it then I suppose. It's not like we hide other internal please-do-not-change-unless-you-know-what-you-are-doing options | 20:27:38 |
| ElvishJerricco | we actually do though | 20:27:52 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | (well mostly ... there are a few. We really don't have a policy on it afaik) | 20:27:53 |
| ElvishJerricco | there are plenty of options marked "internal" | 20:27:58 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | Yeah, but these are visible = false | 20:28:06 |
| ElvishJerricco | Does internal = true also imply "pls no show in manual"? | 20:28:38 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | I believe so. Most of those are like module-internal rather than bad-idea-but-you-can-mess-with-it-if-you-want internal | 20:29:01 |
| ElvishJerricco | gotcha | 20:29:12 |
| ElvishJerricco | alright cool | 20:29:14 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | Like you can disable nscd if you really want to, but it's explicitly discouraged in the option | 20:29:30 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | The amount I care is not much though, so I'm happy to defer to your judgement | 20:29:38 |
| ElvishJerricco | yea I don't have any sort of opinion really | 20:29:57 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | Okay so the sd-initrd options left hidden seems to have been:
boot.initrd.systemd.users (and boot.initrd.systemd.users.[user].uid)boot.initrd.systemd.groups (and boot.initrd.systemd.groups.[group].gid)boot.initrd.services.udev.packagesboot.initrd.services.udev.binPackagesboot.initrd.systemd.dbus.enableboot.initrd.services.bcache.enableboot.initrd.services.swraid.enable
| 20:31:48 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | Sound good to remove visible = false ElvishJerricco? I'll push to the PR in a bit | 20:32:07 |
| ElvishJerricco | Sure. Also, this reminds me that we really need to fix up the optional disk features PR. Title says swraid but I think we want it to hit all these things that we're making optional | 20:33:32 |
| ElvishJerricco | Which is mainly lvm, bcache, and swraid, I think | 20:34:22 |
| ElvishJerricco | * Which is just lvm, bcache, and swraid, I think | 20:34:26 |
| ElvishJerricco | (and to reiterate, because idr if it's in the thread: The goal is to make these things on by default if the stateVersion is old, and to generate them with nixos-generate-config so new installations still don't need manual code) | 20:35:24 |
| 30 Jun 2023 |
 @aloisw:kde.org | In reply to @lily:lily.flowers
So why is boot.initrd.services.lvm.enable a hidden option if it is required to enable it for systemd-stage-1 whenever you have a LVM needed for root Is it required? My system always worked without it. | 07:08:10 |
| @aloisw:kde.org | boot.initrd.services.bcache.enable seems to be required on the other hand. | 07:09:32 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | In reply to @aloisw:kde.org
Is it required? My system always worked without it. The LUKS module enables it, if you are using that | 10:12:20 |
| @aloisw:kde.org | I do use boot.initrd.luks.devices.*, but I find it surprising that this one enables LVM, given that the only thing LUKS does is to encrypt partitions. | 13:56:16 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | In reply to @aloisw:kde.org
I do use boot.initrd.luks.devices.*, but I find it surprising that this one enables LVM, given that the only thing LUKS does is to encrypt partitions. It needs the udev rules for devicemapper | 14:06:53 |
| @lily:lily.flowers | So it enables them I guess. At least the implicit cryptsetup -> lvm2 dependency is less dumb than plymouth relying on systemd to tell it to quit in emergency shells (why does systemd do that instead of an override file or extra unit/dep to handle that not just in the plymouth project??) | 14:08:25 |
| ElvishJerricco | Lily Foster: Something weird happened in your force push to the unhide PR. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/compare/799a114821032cdc3490e3415b13ea389a476026..11d11093849fc45e574e1dce5520ee982c162cd8 | 16:22:01 |
| ElvishJerricco | no changes present | 16:22:06 |
