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systemd in NixOs's stage 1, replacing the current bash tooling https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/projects/5126 Servers

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5 Jun 2023
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlamasome are :38 or :3918:38:24
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlamaMaybe this is when the journal from stage1 is loaded into to actual journal in stage2?18:39:01
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgtbh I don't really understand how the journal is handed over between stages18:39:53
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlamaProbably not relevant for this case anyway. Seems to me like networkd is stopped in stage1 and never exists in stage2, the log just seems to be carried over weirdly.18:41:12
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlama Hmm your hunch was right, setting flushBeforeStage2 = true; works around the issue 18:52:44
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org oddlama: interesting. Can you open an issue and include your configuration? 18:53:27
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlama Just noticed that the systemd-networkd.service: Deactivated successfully also happens in stage2 not stage1, the log order is just also wrong there :D 19:09:29
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlama
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
oddlama: interesting. Can you open an issue and include your configuration?
Not sure how I can include my configuration easily. It's publicly available on github, but too complicated to copy out a single snipped, especially because I don't really know what causes this. I can make a commit and refer to that if it helps
19:12:40
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org oddlama: Well maybe write a little test with the nixos test framework to reproduce the problem if that proves easy enough to do? If not don't worry about it and just describe the problem as best you can 19:14:28
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlamaAlright, I wrote a test for this :D20:38:56
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlamahttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/23614620:38:57
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org oddlama: If I remove your check-flush service, and wait_for_unit on network.target instead of multi-user.target, the test passes 20:57:14
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org oh but I see. The point is that I shouldn't need systemd-networkd to be running yet for the dont-flush case to have the network preconfigured by stage 1 20:59:00
6 Jun 2023
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org oddlama: Ok, so I think the test you made is accidentally discovering a different bug. If you change check-flush.service to have wantedBy = ["multi-user.target"]; instead of requiredBy, then the test succeeds because it doesn't cause multi-user.target to fail, and systemd-networkd.service starts just fine. So the different bug is that the network configuration is getting taken down between stages 1 and two, causing check-flush.service to fail. But systemd-networkd.service is starting fine 00:39:02
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgoh, that might be because you didn't enable systemd initrd, or inherit the netdevs part from stage 2 :P00:46:55
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgHm. That didn't fix it00:51:08
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org

systemd-networkd[88]: extra-1: netdev could not be created: Operation not supported

Oh, well yea that would explain a thing or two

02:51:43
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org is a particular kernel module or something needed to create a Kind = "dummy" netdev? 02:53:05
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org oddlama: Ok yea, so now I have the test passing, and it isn't because of the bug you were originally describing where systemd-networkd wouldn't come up 03:20:00
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org I had to 1) Actually enable systemd stage 1, 2) Inherit the netdevs, 3) Add dummy to boot.initrd.availableKernelModules. And now it passes 03:20:58
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlamaDamn, sorry. Seems like I failed to distill the actual issue here. On my real system where the issue happens, stage1 systemd is enabled, and there are no dummy netdevs needed. The interfaces that are missing are wireguard interfaces. And I specifically don't include them in the initrd. Yet, systemd-network is inactive after the switch10:52:02
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlama * ElvishJerricco: Damn, sorry. Seems like I failed to distill the actual issue here. On my real system where the issue happens, stage1 systemd is enabled, and there are no dummy netdevs needed. The interfaces that are missing are wireguard interfaces. And I specifically don't include them in the initrd. Yet, systemd-network is inactive after the switch 10:52:21
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgDoes the systemd-initrd not work with the netboot installer? Could it be the same reason it does not work with the ISO?11:30:25
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org nikstur: doesn't the NetBoot stuff use its own custom initrd or something? 12:25:05
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.org oddlama: yea so the test you wrote isn't reflecting that problem unfortunately :/ 12:25:24
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.org
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
nikstur: doesn't the NetBoot stuff use its own custom initrd or something?
It bascially only appends another cpio archive with the nix store as a squashfs. So it does use the "normal" initrd.
13:05:38
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgah13:06:12
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orginteresting13:06:14
@oddlama:matrix.orgoddlama
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
oddlama: yea so the test you wrote isn't reflecting that problem unfortunately :/
The extra interfaces was the only idea I had for a cause. Do you by chance know any magic systemd stuff that allow me to log in more detail what is and isn't started? Then I can maybe just try to investigate on the actual system.
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