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systemd in NixOs's stage 1, replacing the current bash tooling https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/projects/5127 Servers

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1 Jun 2023
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccois that normal for live cd images?02:36:37
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccobecause I hate it02:36:40
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de Since it's likely that somebody has already tried: Does anyone know if there's a systemd-cryptenroll way to use fido2+password? In a way where I need both to unlock? 09:56:49
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deah looks like it's not possible: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2108810:29:02
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowers
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
is that normal for live cd images?
That specifically I don't think is normal. We are a tad special there. But doing special things for ISO images is (unfortunately) normal
10:35:53
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianwe missed announcing systemd-initrd in the NixOS 23.05 release notes!11:55:00
@arianvp:matrix.orgAriando we still want to add it?11:55:04
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkwow, yeah!11:56:08
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco Arian: my intention is that systemd initrd is still considered experimental in 23.05, and that it will (hopefully) reach stability for 23.11, with a slight possibility of becoming default in 24.05 11:57:37
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianWe could announce it as experimental? :D11:57:56
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoIf that warrants an announcement in 23.05, then cool :P11:57:57
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI think so11:58:02
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
Since it's likely that somebody has already tried: Does anyone know if there's a systemd-cryptenroll way to use fido2+password? In a way where I need both to unlock?
So the only reason it supports a passphrase for the tpm is because it can literally pass the passphrase to the tpm and let it control the security
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@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him)Can you set a PIN on a FIDO2 key you use for systemd-cryptenroll or does it not support that14:27:54
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him)Admittedly that's *for the entire authenticator* and not just that credential but still14:29:16
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco lukegb (he/him): According to man systemd-cryptenroll, there's --fido2-with-client-pin=BOOL 14:29:23
2 Jun 2023
@charles:computer.surgeryCharles ⚡️
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it just kinda started happening
well, it just kinda stopped happening
20:05:57
@charles:computer.surgeryCharles ⚡️so that's cool i guess20:06:00
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4 Jun 2023
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5 Jun 2023
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.org I just came across something curious: I'm currently building a custom kernel for an Nvidia BlueField2 and when I try to boot it with the systemd initrd, it fails to load the overlay module, giving me this error: overlay: module has no symbols (stripped?). When I use the legacy initrd, it is able to load the module. Could this happen because of the way makeInitrdNG works? 12:25:12
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco

Could this happen because of the way makeInitrdNG works?

That would be pretty surprising, but I have no idea

12:26:14
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco we copy the whole modulesClosure derivation in 12:26:23
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
In reply to @nikstur:matrix.org
I just came across something curious: I'm currently building a custom kernel for an Nvidia BlueField2 and when I try to boot it with the systemd initrd, it fails to load the overlay module, giving me this error: overlay: module has no symbols (stripped?). When I use the legacy initrd, it is able to load the module. Could this happen because of the way makeInitrdNG works?
we have the same issue on rpi4
12:26:30
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.desolution is to disable stripping12:26:35
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgIs there an issue for that already?12:26:45
@nikstur:matrix.org@nikstur:matrix.orgI guess its an AARCH64 thing then12:26:53
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de boot.initrd.systemd.strip 12:26:55
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deI don't think so, we thought it was a random oddity with our kernel12:27:05

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