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| Paul Haerle | Just to clarify: Is this room mainly about https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/120015 or are there other efforts? :) | 08:46:44 |
 Arian | There's also https://github.com/arianvp/server-optimised-nixos which uses systemd initrd as well | 08:51:48 |
| Paul Haerle | Arian: Oh right, i remember seeing your project before - thanks! | 09:11:33 |
| Paul Haerle | Arian: Are you running your initrd code in production already? I have a remote-nixos-on-zfs-root-installer laying around, but one of it's practical problems atm is that the initrd gets pretty big and thats painful to improve as the moment as https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/776a5e6ebfacc6831527bc6c3c1a58ef2087c819 was reverted and nixpkgs initrd still uses ./paths-from-graph.pl which seems to confuse nix-tree, store-path info, etc. | 09:14:12 |
| Arian | I have my own impl of makeInitrd in that repo | 09:48:27 |
| Arian | That uses closureInfo | 09:48:32 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | In reply to @arianvp:matrix.org
That uses closureInfo I'm still looking into the code, but why are you using closeInfo? Doesn't that add a lot of unused weight into stage-1? | 10:29:25 |
| Arian | Mostly because I didn't care and it was the simplest. I haven't dabbled into optimising the initrd size yet | 10:40:47 |
| Arian | Wanted to get working initrd as simply as possible. | 10:41:03 |
| @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de | I do like the simplicity of it. No weird tooling involved, just basic tools. Currently looking at the source of mkinitcpio which seems to follow pretty similar ideas | 10:45:51 |
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 @andi:kack.it | The issue with the current initrd approach in nixpkgs is that it really causes unfortunate library confusions if you have two (or more) packages providing the same libraries. I've had an issue with pulling in systemd into the closure as that also pulled in systemdMinimal and then the features wouldn't be available as it always dlopen'ed the minimal library :'( | 13:37:04 |
| @andi:kack.it | We need a better approach for that initrd (and should also rip out that systemdMinimal ASAP) | 13:37:21 |
| Arian | This is also an argument for my approach even though it's not optimised yet. It's 'just' a nix store. So no confusion among libraries | 13:45:07 |
| colemickens | In reply to @phaer:matrix.org
Arian: Are you running your initrd code in production already? I have a remote-nixos-on-zfs-root-installer laying around, but one of it's practical problems atm is that the initrd gets pretty big and thats painful to improve as the moment as https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/776a5e6ebfacc6831527bc6c3c1a58ef2087c819 was reverted and nixpkgs initrd still uses ./paths-from-graph.pl which seems to confuse nix-tree, store-path info, etc. That installer is something I was considering hacking together for netboot oracle instances. Id love to take a peek | 15:56:48 |
