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Stage 1 systemd

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systemd in NixOs's stage 1, replacing the current bash tooling https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/projects/5126 Servers

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28 Jan 2023
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowers
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
(that's one reason I don't look to them for examples; it's really hard to disentangle their scripted implementations from their systemd implementations)
(mkinitcpio also sketches me the heck out and dracut is too complicated/sometimes working by accident like in this case)
23:41:32
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgyuuup23:41:54
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgagreed 100%23:41:59
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztwe should make the nixos initramfs builder build initramfses for other distros too23:42:27
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztthen have all the other distros use that23:42:36
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetzt:D23:42:37
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowersHonestly, it would definitely improve the situation for some initramfs's23:42:53
@elvishjerricco:matrix.org@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgMy earliest attempts at systemd initrd included using mkinitcpio and dracut and it was Not Very Fun (TM)23:42:55
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowers
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
My earliest attempts at systemd initrd included using mkinitcpio and dracut and it was Not Very Fun (TM)
Yeah what we've got going (once all of the unit ordering issues are ironed out...) seems much better and easier to follow. Also probably faster since it doesn't have the extra stuff that dracut has
23:43:38
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowers(As the person who maintains the dracut derivation in nixpkgs, I can confirm we should 100% not use it to generate our initramfs unless we want to have a terrible time)23:44:37
@lily:lily.flowers@lily:lily.flowers (I only wanted it for lsinitrd anyways) 23:44:49
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztI remember trying to follow what dracut did for... something, I don't even remember what23:45:10
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztand eventually giving up23:45:13
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztI think I wanted to implement some initramfs functionality that nixos didn't have23:45:37
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetzthm, maybe it was zfs mount generators?23:45:51

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