| 21 Jul 2026 |
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hexa | https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/153.0/releasenotes/ | 13:53:19 |
| 23 Jul 2026 |
vcunat | Any idea why "containers" are in the "New" section here? I've been using them for years, and the description doesn't appear to have something new. | 11:06:17 |
hexa | probably because parts of them are now "native", whatever that implies | 11:11:30 |
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| 24 Jul 2026 |
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| 25 Jul 2026 |
nbp | I no longer have insider information now …
Containers got added to Firefox back in 2013 (IIRC), but only got addons API, but never an integrated design.
Thus the novelty might be the integration within Firefox. | 23:30:40 |
| 27 Jul 2026 |
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vinnl | Yeah, the functionality was native, but the UI to expose the functionality was in an add-on, and that is being moved into Firefox proper now. | 09:46:21 |
| 3 Aug 2026 |
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| 5 Aug 2026 |
vivekanandan_ks | Since nix breaks down builds into small small pieces, do we have reused modules or options commonly used in thunderbird, firefox etc? | 12:06:09 |
K900 | Uhh what | 12:08:46 |
| 6 Aug 2026 |
vivekanandan_ks | I mean do we have a common library like builFirefoxPackages or smth | 09:23:27 |
K900 | buildMozillaMach | 09:23:43 |
vcunat | But it doesn't "break down builds into small small pieces" | 09:40:23 |
vcunat | Similarly, each chromium/electron has one huge derivation which does all the compiling. (there it's even much worse due to enormous vendoring) | 09:42:01 |
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| 10 Aug 2026 |
hexa | https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2026/08/10/updated-gpg-key-for-signing-firefox-and-thunderbird-releases/ | 19:30:29 |
| 12 Aug 2026 |
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vcunat | Some expensive builds get done about 20 times per month (multiplied by platforms and "variants"), e.g.
https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/unstable/pkgsRocm.librewolf-unwrapped.x86_64-linux/all
But I don't really know what to do about that. | 10:35:42 |
hexa | https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/unstable/pkgsRocm.firefox-unwrapped.x86_64-linux/all?page=2 looks much steadier because we have 8 version bumps in like a month o_O | 11:31:19 |
vcunat | I think we do use this one in the updater script. But it still seems to work; I'm not sure why. | 14:04:41 |
hexa | yeah, I'm not sure either why it still works | 14:05:25 |
vcunat | 🤔 they only revoked a subkey, and we refer a whole key, so gpg deals with this automatically? | 14:08:27 |
vcunat | (and maybe they resigned the old artifacts) | 14:08:46 |
hexa | possibly | 14:08:47 |
nbp | I recall last time there was a grace period where both keys were valid. | 15:50:19 |
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