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 emily | Gaétan Lepage: are you running anything actively on the builders right now? | 22:28:23 |
| emily | just wanted to check since we're currently building a bunch of stdenvs for Darwin rework as we race against the deadline in ~90 minutes 😅 | 22:28:56 |
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 Mic92 | @emilazy:matrix.org: we could potentially also get the ci builder to do stuff. | 03:01:01 |
| emily | we merged already thankfully :) | 03:13:39 |
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| 11 Oct 2024 |
| emily | 2 minutes before the freeze | 03:13:44 |
 zowoq | If the darwin builder is getting to be a bit overloaded we could upgrade, assuming the nix-macos opencollective will cover it still. https://www.oakhost.net/product/mac-mini-hosting-m2-pro-32gb | 04:20:36 |
| emily | I think it is okay, Rosetta 2 is just slow | 04:20:58 |
| emily | I am hoping to get some of those OpenCollective funds directed towards paying for more Darwin ofborg builders | 04:21:12 |
| emily | which would reduce load on the community builder anyway | 04:21:17 |
| emily | (as right now we effectively have to use it as substitute ofborg due to the uselessness of ofborg) | 04:21:30 |
| emily | I sometimes have to pause to let other people build stuff, but at the same time it's quiet and underutilized a lot of the time too. | 04:22:02 |
| emily | btw, the community builder used to be on macincloud right? what's the story with moving to OakHost? (since it might be relevant for ofborg) | 04:22:20 |
| zowoq | No, it was always hetzner before we switched to oakhost. | 04:25:11 |
| emily | interesting 🤔 https://opencollective.com/nix-macos links to https://www.macincloud.com/pages/dedicated.html | 04:26:00 |
| zowoq | IIRC that was a machine that toonn was using. | 04:26:44 |
| emily | ah | 04:27:00 |
| emily | I think it makes sense to use bigger machines funded from that pool for ofborg, since that has to churn through ~every PR opened and is more generally useful to the project and committers than the community builder. I'm still in the process of coordinating everything and getting in touch with everyone though. | 04:27:22 |
| emily | but my hope is that Darwin CI will work well and be fast once more for 25.05, which should also lessen demand on the community builder (though it's still invaluable of course) | 04:27:45 |
| zowoq |
what's the story with moving to OakHost?
Better specs and better remote management tools.
| 04:30:00 |
| emily | although given that it is bringing in ~$1k/month that is only going to one machine right now and has $20k stored up, perhaps we could simply upgrade both ofborg and the community builder | 04:30:20 |
| emily | In reply to @zowoq:matrix.org
what's the story with moving to OakHost?
Better specs and better remote management tools.
thanks. do you know how it compares to MacStadium, which I believe the machines the Foundation rents are from? | 04:30:38 |
| zowoq | I haven't used macstadium in a very, very long time so couldn't really give a comparison. oakhost has instant kvm access and remote power management so there isn't really anything that I'd say they are missing. | 04:40:30 |
| emily | ok, cool :) | 04:45:33 |
