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18 Sep 2024
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily building and redistributing unfreeRedistributable is already a minefield given the various complex use restrictions many of those licences have, but doing it for unfree is a terrible idea 13:10:58
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
right. maybe related to https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/342529 https://github.com/numtide/nixpkgs-unfree ?
indeed related https://hydra.nix-community.org/jobset/nixpkgs/unfree#tabs-configuration
13:11:38
@kamillaova:matrix.orgKamilla 'ovalast time I checked nixpkgs-unfree (~1 year ago) aseprite was not in their cache13:11:44
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhich is confusing given zimbatm's statement of "our intent here is not to redistribute"13:11:50
@kamillaova:matrix.orgKamilla 'ovaI think this is related to https://github.com/nix-community/infra/pull/140613:12:09
@kamillaova:matrix.orgKamilla 'ovain my opinion, building all unfree packages is good, but publishing them in a public cache is bad13:13:22
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyposted https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/342529#issuecomment-235843896513:13:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @kamillaova:matrix.org
in my opinion, building all unfree packages is good, but publishing them in a public cache is bad
for unfreeRedistributable it seems like a good idea if someone is willing to take on the risk. unfortunately lib.licenses.unfree often means "impossible to build without committing a copyright violation"; we have it overloaded with a hypothetical lib.licenses.illegal
13:14:24
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily so it's a quite significant risk to do it for lib.licenses.unfree even in the absence of redistribution 13:14:36
@kamillaova:matrix.orgKamilla 'ovaI think adding redistributableOnly option to release-unfree.nix will be fine13:14:38
@kamillaova:matrix.orgKamilla 'ova
In reply to@emilazy:matrix.org
posted https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/342529#issuecomment-2358438965
via Cachix

I think hydra.nix-community.org also provides a way to download the output but it throws an exception inside the hydra code (https://matrix.to/#/#nix-community:nixos.org/$I6ODgqJ-1MNHvgq_lBx2AtpUA-q2p1llHYHAyMzKlGg)
13:18:46
@kamillaova:matrix.orgKamilla 'ova
via Cachix
I think hydra.nix-community.org also provides a way to download the output but it throws an exception inside the hydra code (https://matrix.to/#/#nix-community:nixos.org/$I6ODgqJ-1MNHvgq_lBx2AtpUA-q2p1llHYHAyMzKlGg)
13:18:57
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyright. well "via Cachix" is more concerning because it means that we're also inducing Cachix into copyright violations, which they presumably wouldn't be happy about :)13:19:29
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Isn't cachix just a provider in this case?17:03:25

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