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6 Sep 2024
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rbWell yeah thats what were discussing20:24:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @mattsturg:matrix.org
I'm not personally familiar with steam-fetcher, but just asking generally; would it make sense for nixpkgs to maintain fetchers/builders/writers/etc for things not actually used in nixpkgs, but useful out-of-tree? In this case that'd be steam games, I guess.
I mean I'm just replying to this
20:24:47
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think it can make sense in theory but that it doesn't make sense in practice for this20:24:56
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rbYeah i didnt quite get it20:25:00
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rbBut anyway, i agree with ya20:25:14
@aidalgol:matrix.orgaidalgol Anything you would want to use steam-fetcher for would be unfree, because anything FOSS available through Steam will be available via simpler means. 20:25:52
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyyeah20:27:19
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand I mean20:27:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywe do package unfree games20:27:23
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut do we want to get in the business of packaging every game that is only available through Steam? probably no?20:27:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywe have a general-purpose fetcher and runner for that packaged called Steam20:27:47
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilynot to say that there aren't uses for what you made!20:27:54
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think there could be reasons to include it in Nixpkgs. for instance, what if someone wants to write a NixOS module for a proprietary game server only available through Steam?20:28:13
@aidalgol:matrix.orgaidalgolOh yeah, I didn't read it that way at all.20:28:24
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythat would make sense. we have a Minecraft server module.20:28:25
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily and at that point, I would be fine with fetchSteam being in-tree 20:28:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut until that point, it doesn't seem worth it20:28:46
@aidalgol:matrix.orgaidalgol
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I think there could be reasons to include it in Nixpkgs. for instance, what if someone wants to write a NixOS module for a proprietary game server only available through Steam?
I've written one, and it's available as a flake: https://github.com/aidalgol/valheim-server-flake/
20:28:58
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rbSo youre sayibg if i write a arma 3 module, we can merge it, got it 🫡20:29:03
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyright :)20:29:05
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso if you wanted to upstream that, go ahead IMO20:29:11
@aidalgol:matrix.orgaidalgolI don't think that should go into nixpkgs because of how hacky it has to be.20:29:16
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyha20:29:27
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyunlike the rest of NixOS :P20:29:32
@aidalgol:matrix.orgaidalgolI mean, see the "Notes on using mods" section.20:30:29
7 Sep 2024
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@ss:someonex.netSomeoneSerge (matrix works sometimes)

zowoq btw I tried a bunch of revisions from the hydra history (e.g. https://hydra.nix-community.org/eval/50299#tabs-inputs) and I never get a cache hit with

NIX_PATH=nixpkgs=https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/archive/66a352a3f27a2eb2f27e42a13c6fe245d3be2b98.tar.gz nix build -f '<nixpkgs>' python3Packages.torch
19:53:14
@zowoq:matrix.orgzowoqI get a cache hit from that.23:51:24
8 Sep 2024
@ss:someonex.netSomeoneSerge (matrix works sometimes)H'm, I'll look into my config again01:46:57
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