| 3 Jan 2025 |
 liberodark | Im just user want to help a community. | 16:16:52 |
| liberodark | Thanks for your explain. | 16:17:19 |
| liberodark | I'll start building this one just in case.
That way it'll be ready if you want it. | 16:18:02 |
|  @acidbong:envs.net left the room. | 16:23:17 |
 hexa | plus taxes depending on where the legal entitity for nix-community resides | 17:03:03 |
| hexa | for nl that 21% | 17:03:25 |
| hexa | which increases the cost to 205 and 265 EUR respectively | 17:03:49 |
| hexa | we better start risc-v support with a hydra.nixos.org builder instead of a communty builder I think | 17:04:30 |
| hexa | native builds require bootstrapping of the stdenv and all kinds of compilers to be useful | 17:05:08 |
| hexa | * for nl that is 21% | 17:05:31 |
| hexa | * for nl that is an extra 21% | 17:05:36 |
| liberodark | I can help on risc-v | 17:06:09 |
 Mic92 | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
plus taxes depending on where the legal entitity for nix-community resides Suiss | 17:06:10 |
| liberodark | * I can help on risc-v too | 17:06:12 |
| Mic92 | Best VAT | 17:06:17 |
| hexa | Süß 😄 | 17:06:20 |
| Mic92 | We should also vat optimise the NixOS infra :) only issue is that doing taxes in Swiss probably makes overhead not worth it | 17:08:40 |
| liberodark | What you need in spec ? | 17:13:46 |
 K900 | More than realistically exists currently | 17:14:12 |
| K900 | With all due respect we should not be spending time on RISCV right now | 17:14:47 |
| K900 | We have much bigger fish to fry and RISCV hardware is, frankly, a meme | 17:15:25 |
 emily | right, ouch. (but I guess at least it also increases what would be saved on the x86) | 17:16:48 |
| liberodark | The x86_64 builder will be ready in about 1 week.
For risc-v we would need more information, I have a few servers but for a builder it seems to me that we need a pioneer which is quite slow as standard.
But it's what works best at the moment. | 17:20:14 |
| emily | I think we probably don't have the sources as a community to give RISC-V higher tier support right now | 17:20:48 |
| emily | IIRC it was unclear whether any available RISC-V hardware could keep up with Hydra load and not drag down the other architectures right now | 17:21:09 |
| emily | and Hydra would definitely need multiple of the best RISC-V machines money can buy at the minimum | 17:21:44 |
| hexa | I'm totally paying for taxes as needed, given that the foundation basically uses the dutch state as a vehicle | 17:22:02 |
| hexa | * I'm totally pro paying for taxes as needed, given that the foundation basically uses the dutch state as a vehicle | 17:22:08 |
| hexa | and I have strong opinions on the implications of an 8% tax rate | 17:22:21 |
| hexa | liberodark: I generally trust K900's judgement on RISC-V, but at the same time it would be good to gauge performance. | 17:23:28 |
