| 11 Sep 2025 |
 K900 | There's also https://mynixos.com/ | 13:59:00 |
 @x12:matrix.org | That's exactly what I meant.
We can close the topic now 😆 | 14:00:08 |
 redbeardymcgee | Don't look to AI to solve problems for you. It will just make the problem worse. | 14:02:37 |
| redbeardymcgee | You have to be the expert who can fix every little mistake it makes, in order for AI to produce anything useful. By the time you work all those details out, you could have just written it better and faster yourself. | 14:03:28 |
| redbeardymcgee | AI pooping code out on your screen feels better than the feedback loop of reading & understanding documentation, but it's worse.
| 14:04:20 |
 Ihar Hrachyshka | no. just in the last week I generated 1) a benchmark for something in k8s world that used API I never touched before 2) a c++ app extracting all envvars from darwin process kernel api, one-shotted; I can't produce c++ code without much struggle. Both pieces of code were used and immediately thrown away. It didn't make it worse, I didn't need to be an expert. For (2), I later compared what it produced with the actual code in Lix tree for the same and it was very similar / not worse. | 14:06:59 |
| @x12:matrix.org | It seems to me that if I had started my first post by saying that I’m trying to make an app that helps new users get into NixOS—without even mentioning that I’m using AI for it—the discussion would have been completely different. Well, I’m not going to tell you what’s what or how to live your life. Thanks to AI, I’ve got a few working apps that help me make money and do my work in general—without spending time learning languages like Python, JS, and others. Thanks for the link with a ready-made app for creating configs. I asked what you thought about the app, you said it was pointless, and that’s where the discussion can end, because there’s no sense in arguing over trivial stuff xD. | 14:44:06 |
 Jonas Chevalier | This is not acceptable Winter K900 Preston redbeardymcgee . Don't pile on somebody asking an innocent question, it destroys the free flow of information.
Sorry about the bad reception x12
| 14:46:41 |
| @x12:matrix.org | Heh it's ok. :) | 14:52:27 |
| Jonas Chevalier | I think it's important to say graceful with people's ideas. Even if they are bad :) Otherwise we're missing out on people who might have good ideas, but want to avoid that type of interaction. | 14:59:26 |
 Winter | sorry, maybe i misread their message, but the only reason i mentioned it was because they were looking for feedback | 15:01:23 |
 Preston | In reply to @zimbatm:numtide.com
I think it's important to say graceful with people's ideas. Even if they are bad :) Otherwise we're missing out on people who might have good ideas, but want to avoid that type of interaction. Agree with this, and what I was trying to get at earlier. Just chiming in with my experiences with GenAI. Probably could’ve formatted my response better though! | 16:20:24 |
| Jonas Chevalier | All good. I was mostly shooting at the train than any of the particular wagons :) | 16:24:12 |
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| 13 Sep 2025 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | The community builders seem down, i can't ping any of them (let alone log in) | 11:40:47 |
 zowoq | I can log in to all of them but they do all have active builds | 12:51:57 |
 emily | I was running reviews for tbb overnight, tried to set safe core limits but possible they got overloaded if >half of the capacity got used by other things | 15:04:59 |
| emily | sorry about that if so | 15:05:04 |
|  Donald joined the room. | 15:16:29 |
 Gaétan Lepage | zowoq any idea why this job buildbot is "stuck"?
https://buildbot.nix-community.org/#/builders/26/builds/6469
I tried to stop it, but nothing happens.
All the entries are marked as successfull, but the job is still hanging. | 16:47:24 |
| Gaétan Lepage | * zowoq any idea why this buildbot job is "stuck"?
https://buildbot.nix-community.org/#/builders/26/builds/6469
I tried to stop it, but nothing happens.
All the entries are marked as successfull, but the job is still hanging. | 16:47:33 |
 Matt Sturgeon | I've also tried "cancel whole queue" which has no effect | 23:18:12 |
| zowoq | I've reverted buildbot back to an earlier commit and cleared all of the the stuck builds. | 23:38:02 |
| 14 Sep 2025 |
| Gaétan Lepage | Thanks! | 07:36:56 |
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| Donald set a profile picture. | 20:44:21 |
| 16 Sep 2025 |
 Mic92 | zowoq: Fixed it this morning | 15:57:11 |
| Mic92 | https://github.com/nix-community/buildbot-nix/pull/491 | 15:57:29 |
| Mic92 | This one should speed up bigger projects quiet a bit: https://github.com/nix-community/buildbot-nix/pull/492 | 15:57:52 |
