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6 Oct 2025
@ss:someonex.netSomeoneSerge (back on matrix)One shared castore, multiple snix-stores09:59:44
@mattsturg:matrix.orgMatt Sturgeon
In reply to @joerg:thalheim.io
@mattsturg:matrix.org: if you go to the eval build step, there is a restart button after github login

When I tried that for a merge group, I got:

fatal: couldn't find remote ref gh-readonly-queue/nixos-25.05/pr-3724-a30decbd5fc231e84dfefeb75bc7f57d8167726c

Because GitHub cleans up the merge group ref when it is dequeued, which happens as soon as it receives the failed status check.

10:45:20
@mattsturg:matrix.orgMatt Sturgeon(maybe buildbot should fetch the actual git object instead of fetching by reference to avoid this failure mode?)10:46:22
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92
In reply to @mattsturg:matrix.org
(maybe buildbot should fetch the actual git object instead of fetching by reference to avoid this failure mode?)
Fetching by git commit is not a supported feature of the protocol
11:02:44
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92However we should not cache fetch errors in the first place11:03:21
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Can you open an issue 11:03:30
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92?11:03:33
@mattsturg:matrix.orgMatt Sturgeon
In reply to @joerg:thalheim.io
Fetching by git commit is not a supported feature of the protocol
You can do it via the git CLI git fetch <remote> <commit> (so I assume the git protocol supports it) and also via flakeref (if you know the commit id, at least: nix build github:NixOS/nixpkgs/<commit>). Which protocol does buildbot use to fetch?
11:07:06
@mattsturg:matrix.orgMatt Sturgeon
In reply to @joerg:thalheim.io
However we should not cache fetch errors in the first place
I haven't checked yet if that error caused cached failures; I saw it in a rebuild attempt
11:07:40
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Redacted or Malformed Event11:08:25
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Will check if this possible 11:09:32
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92In my memory this was not possible 11:09:42
@mattsturg:matrix.orgMatt SturgeonGotcha. I'll open an issue in a bit then. Thanks11:10:21
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92I would expect that the commit in this case is also garbage collected 11:15:47
@mattsturg:matrix.orgMatt SturgeonMaybe, although anecdotally I've noticed GitHub almost never runs gc; you can almost always get commits from old rebases, for example, even if you've done several subsequent force-pushes.11:20:18
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@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforeverfetching a commit by full id is specified but is not necessarily allowed on any git server12:31:17
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@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforeveri guess github allows it then, but i don't know to what extent (e.g. does it have to be reachable?)12:31:37
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@grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deGrimmauld (any/all)
In reply to @mattsturg:matrix.org
Maybe, although anecdotally I've noticed GitHub almost never runs gc; you can almost always get commits from old rebases, for example, even if you've done several subsequent force-pushes.
they do run GC, but often only on very busy repos
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@mattsturg:matrix.orgMatt Sturgeon

AFAICT, buildbot isn't picking up github merge queue groups anymore.

E.g. #3762 is queued, but isn't showing up on the nixvim/nix-eval page.

The last time we saw buildbot trigger on a queue event was yesterday: build 7028.

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