| 12 Sep 2024 |
|  moved to @amadaluzia:tchncs.de changed their display name from (lambda (u) (format nil "~a ~a")) "Artur" "Manuel" to (lambda (f l) (format nil "~a ~a")) "Artur" "Manuel". | 01:56:13 |
 K900 | Does anyone have commit permissions on fenix? Can I get a merge on https://github.com/nix-community/fenix/pull/163 | 04:27:11 |
| K900 | One line change that fixes an eval warning | 04:27:20 |
 cafkafk | ohh that's what's been causing it | 04:27:54 |
| cafkafk | seems like it may just be figsoda https://github.com/orgs/nix-community/teams/fenix or org admins :s | 04:29:59 |
 Matt Sturgeon | Thanks! | 07:00:44 |
 emily | is fenix ~dead-ish? | 08:59:26 |
| emily | looks like this is the first manual change in several months | 09:00:08 |
| emily | and I've scrolled back about a year and not found a substantive change | 09:00:53 |
| emily | perhaps it's time to point people at oxalica/rust-overlay? | 09:01:30 |
| emily | uh, actually figsoda seems to have disappeared from GitHub entirely in July? | 09:01:59 |
 Mic92 | maybe finished studying? | 10:31:41 |
 eyJhb | Maybe it works good enough? | 12:38:00 |
| emily | I mean, we just had to get an org admin to merge a fix for a Nixpkgs deprecation after over a week, so it doesn't seem like an "it's done, no more changes needed" situation | 12:40:29 |
| 13 Sep 2024 |
|  Khalil Santana joined the room. | 00:08:02 |
| cafkafk | > <@emilazy:matrix.org> uh, actually figsoda seems to have disappeared from GitHub entirely in July?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ this message is seen by figsoda's account, so seems to still be around | 05:46:07 |
| eyJhb | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I mean, we just had to get an org admin to merge a fix for a Nixpkgs deprecation after over a week, so it doesn't seem like an "it's done, no more changes needed" situation Upstream changes doesn't really change that, does it? Project might be done and quite usable, but accounting for upstream changes breaking something is kind of hard. And not always you have the time to sit down and fix such things. | 06:03:58 |
| emily | sure, I'm not blaming anyone | 11:26:47 |
| emily | just wondering if there is a plan for ongoing maintenance | 11:27:07 |
| Matt Sturgeon | Its not blocking me, as everything passed on a rebuild, but I figured I should report so the infra/buildbot maintainers are aware:
I just had a buildbot build fail with "cachix: FailureResponse | 524: A timeout occurred" (only one build had the issue; the other 199 all passed). Not seen this before, so I'll monitor to see if it becomes a recurring issue.
| 11:41:51 |
| Mic92 | Matt Sturgeon: I saw error 500 in a different place too for cachix. It's something domen has to fix. | 12:25:20 |
| Mic92 | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
just wondering if there is a plan for ongoing maintenance It was merged. We can ask the community if someone else wants to take over maintainance. | 12:26:05 |
| Mic92 | Personally I am not using it. | 12:26:19 |
| emily | it's always seemed a little unfortunate to me that there are two Rust flakes implementing very nearly the exact same functionality with slightly different tradeoffs | 12:26:58 |
| Mic92 | What's the advantage of fenix over the other one? | 12:28:20 |
 Domen Kožar | Mic92: we rolled out a change and it took down the server for a few seconds | 12:30:45 |
| emily | In reply to @joerg:thalheim.io
What's the advantage of fenix over the other one? IIRC fenix has smaller tarballs than rust-overlay because it requires IFD to use nightlies whereas rust-overlay contains that information in-tree. I believe rust-overlay has cut off nightlies before 2023 to mitigate that problem now though. | 12:30:55 |
| emily | https://github.com/oxalica/rust-overlay/issues/139#issuecomment-1786249552 has a comparison from the rust-overlay maintainer and links to other people's comparisons | 12:31:30 |
| emily | (looks like rust-overlay is still significantly bigger to download, though smaller than Nixpkgs) | 12:33:06 |
| emily | (I assume a hypothetical branch of rust-overlay that only included the toolchains fenix does would be comparable in size) | 12:35:27 |
