| 12 Oct 2021 |
 fedx | Its not that I don't like systemd, its just that it may be useful to have a daemon for the specific user to perhaps spin up quick deamons, kind of like how you spin up quick containers with toolbox. | 17:53:06 |
 nrdxp | well I don't like systemd ๐
but I make due since there is really no avoiding it nowadays ๐
| 17:54:04 |
| fedx | Agreed, I don't hate it, but I don't love it. I am not a fan of OpenRC, as it is super slow, but I have been looking at runit from Void. | 17:54:55 |
| fedx | Makes does look interesting for some other stuff though... | 17:56:03 |
| fedx | It would probably something like โevery day at run home-manager updateโ. Maybe less like a daemon and more like recurring rootless scripts which automatically execute. | 18:14:21 |
| fedx | * It would probably something like โevery day at 8:30 run home-manager updateโ. Maybe less like a daemon and more like recurring rootless scripts which automatically execute. | 18:14:40 |
| fedx | Turns out that is what cron is for, and it has been requested. https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager/issues/571 | 20:27:14 |
| nrdxp | I was gonna say that it sounds like you want cron but I guess I context switched and forgot ๐
systemd does have a concept as timers which essentially fulfill the same purpose if you don't have a hard affinity against using it | 20:43:31 |
| nrdxp | * I was gonna say that it sounds like you want cron but I guess I context switched and forgot ๐
systemd does have a concept of timers which essentially fulfill the same purpose if you don't have a hard affinity against using it | 20:44:01 |
| fedx | Lol. I have only been using Linux for a year, so I don't understand the sceptisisim around systemd, and don't have any inheriant issues around it. However, I will attempt to implement cron in home-manager. | 21:21:47 |
| nrdxp | I mean it's great to have a standard tool that everyone uses for the sake of sanity, I just wish is was a slightly better designed tool with less obtuse documentation | 22:05:57 |
| fedx | Ah, I just copy and past random systemctl commands off the internet. The two Linux things I have read absolutely 0 documentation on are Gnome and Systemd. Nix does help though, I kind of love how you just tell nix to start a daemon, and it fetches everything to make it work, and disabling it purges the binary. | 22:20:47 |
| fedx | Systemd is so universal, is so confusing using a non systemd distro, you boot in, try to enable ssh, and realize you have no idea what is going on. | 22:22:01 |
| fedx | Ho, wait, never mind, I have read those docs. Yah, they are amazingly bad. I always refer to the Arch Wiki for nearly everything, and they have some great systemd docs, seeing as unless you use and "easier" arch fork like Manjaro, you really need to know your systemd. | 22:30:35 |
| fedx | * Oh, wait, never mind, I have read those docs. Yah, they are amazingly bad. I always refer to the Arch Wiki for nearly everything, and they have some great systemd docs, seeing as unless you use and "easier" arch fork like Manjaro, you really need to know your systemd. | 22:50:32 |
| 13 Oct 2021 |
|  mipmip joined the room. | 11:22:53 |
| mipmip set a profile picture. | 11:27:54 |
| fedx | I tried using systemd user services, and I have been bashing my head against a wall trying to figure out what is going on. Yah, I am just going to use cron. I don't need the full daemon capabilities of Systemd, and I agree, are there even docs? | 20:00:04 |
 ryantm | In reply to @mic92:nixos.dev
async looks like a nice tool: https://github.com/ctbur/async/ Cool. Looks like it doesn't have an insane "must-cite" license like GNU Parallel. | 23:10:33 |
| ryantm | It looks like I'm confusing a license with just annoying program behavior. | 23:20:44 |
| 14 Oct 2021 |
 kamadorueda | I currently use Makes on my Nixos to setup vscode config and its extensions, it integrates very well both as a system-activation-script and a systemd module | 01:43:45 |
| ryantm | FYI: I am now an admin/maintainer of nixdoc alongside tazjin. I'm going to try to get my CommonMark changes integrated into it soon. https://github.com/nix-community/nixdoc | 19:54:02 |
| 16 Oct 2021 |
 colemickens ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ | Are y'all going to migrate to a Cachix Org? | 02:15:02 |
| colemickens ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ | I'd like the nixpkgs-wayland account to fall under that org, since the repo is in the org. | 02:15:42 |
| colemickens ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ | LMK if | 02:16:07 |
 Domen Koลพar | Jonas Chevalier created Ni Community org so we'll migrate things there | 02:33:00 |
| Domen Koลพar | colemickens ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ alright! | 02:33:14 |
| colemickens ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ | (and maybe this is or would be super obvious but I did mis-speak in addition to trailing off... the nixpkgs-wayland repo is under colemickens, rather than being its own account.) | 02:42:58 |
 Mic92 | Was I invited to this org? Because I now see nix-community in my account. | 05:57:03 |
| colemickens ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ | hm, I'm also a tad confused. Do I want to go to nixpkgs-wayland -> members and change to nix-community? | 11:03:23 |
