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18 Jun 2021
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng LiI still don't get why he commented in the first place - Didn't he come around less than a week ago? Or has he forgotten already?05:23:29
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng LiI mean, even if he wasn't actually sincere and is still being passive aggressive, he should still have *acknowledged* our previous exchange in some way05:36:57
@robert:funklause.dedotlambda
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
I've just browsed archlinuxes packaging of home-assistant
Theirs can use pip.
08:06:08
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.network dotlambda: their packaging is outdated https://archlinux.org/packages/community/any/home-assistant/ 09:47:36
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkhttps://bugs.archlinux.org/task/67961?project=5&string=home-assistant09:48:07
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networki does not seem to find/install dependencies on first start?09:48:14
@robert:funklause.dedotlambda
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
i does not seem to find/install dependencies on first start?
I doubt it. I would rather want to see the missing part of the logs. Why would you use `joirnalctl -f` for that? 🙈
10:20:16
@robert:funklause.dedotlambda* I doubt it. I would rather want to see the missing part of the logs. Why would you use `journalctl -f` for that? 🙈10:20:52
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.network

log starts with

Sep 21 22:24:54 testing systemd[1]: Started Home assistant.

10:21:03
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkso yeah, maybe something is amis10:21:09
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkhttps://bugs.archlinux.org/task/70615?project=5&string=home-assistant10:21:23
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkcrashes on start because of a scapy patch that doesn't work anymore10:21:33
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkso yeah, maybe they're using pip, but it's not working great for them10:21:52
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkhttps://repology.org/project/home-assistant/versions10:22:40
@robert:funklause.dedotlambda
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https://repology.org/project/home-assistant/versions
We should really show that to frenck 😂
10:23:30
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.network maybe he is afraid because we are the only distro package that would possibly receive any usage? 10:23:59
@robert:funklause.dedotlambda
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
so yeah, maybe they're using pip, but it's not working great for them
It never works great unless in a virtualenv. I also remember breaking my Arch Linux so often cause I forgot I should never use `sudo pip install`.
10:24:53
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.network I broke my arch often because I sudo pacman -S firefox 10:25:41
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkand that results in partial upgrades 🙈10:25:56
@robert:funklause.dedotlambdaOh I feel you. I recently told someone: just do `pacman -Syu`. Now their `yay` and probably everything else installed through AUR is broken and can't be upgraded.10:27:05
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkrip 10:28:05
@robert:funklause.dedotlambda
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
maybe he is afraid because we are the only distro package that would possibly receive any usage?
I would still think Arch Linux's home-assistant has more users, but I'm very surprised it's not just in the AUR
10:29:13
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkit was, I found links to aur, but apparently got promoted to community10:29:42
@robert:funklause.dedotlambdaShould we add comments to the expressions for packages by frenck saying they are not endorsed by upstream?11:00:07
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkhow would endusers notice? :P11:00:40
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTifiedIssue a warning 🙈11:00:51
@robert:funklause.dedotlambdaThey wouldn't. It might just please frenck11:00:54
@robert:funklause.dedotlambda
In reply to @schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.de
Issue a warning 🙈
That would make hydra fail I think.
11:01:23
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTified
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That would make hydra fail I think.
Okay, that might be a problem
11:02:21
@schnecfk:ruhr-uni-bochum.deCRTified Doestrace cause hydra to fail, too? 11:03:01

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