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@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.network* hm, apparently we could just drop them into /var/lib/hass/blueprint/{automation,script/{owner}/{name}.yaml00:05:45
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blueprints/automation/
blueprints/automation/bnapalm/
blueprints/automation/homeassistant/
blueprints/automation/homeassistant/motion_light.yaml
blueprints/automation/homeassistant/notify_leaving_zone.yaml
blueprints/automation/mweinelt/
blueprints/automation/mweinelt/danfoss_trv_ext_temp_z2m.yaml
blueprints/automation/sbyx/
blueprints/automation/sbyx/low-battery-level-detection-notification-for-all-battery-sensors.yaml
blueprints/automation/sbyx/notify-or-do-something-when-an-appliance-like-a-dishwasher-or-washing-machine-finishes.yaml
blueprints/script/
blueprints/script/homeassistant/
blueprints/script/homeassistant/confirmable_notification.yaml
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@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkthis is out it looks for me00:05:51
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.network* this is how it looks for me00:07:41
@robert:funklause.dedotlambda Should I add a blueprints option to the NixOS module or just let people use tmpfiles manually? 00:11:06
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networktmpfiles is an ugly interface00:13:05
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkit deserves to be wrapped00:13:20
@robert:funklause.dedotlambdaDo we want to let people write blueprints in Nix? Or do they have to provide a path to a YAML file?00:21:31
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkpeople are probably going to want to consume blueprints most, no?00:24:33
@robert:funklause.dedotlambdaI would definitely give the option to do both00:30:09
@elonsroadster:matrix.orgcolonelpanic joined the room.03:23:08
@elonsroadster:matrix.orgcolonelpanicI've gotten pretty far with setting up matter/thread with homeassitant by using the open thread border router setup that is currently still a pr (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/332296). For a long time, I was running into this very annoying issue (https://github.com/home-assistant/android/issues/4146), but the recommendations there ended up solving the problem. However, I'm now running in to a new issue where adding the device fails on my android device with "Can't reach device: Make sure your phone is connected to Wi-Fi". Has anyone else seen this issue? Has anyone here had success with a matter/thread setup using the nixos home assistant module?03:27:21
@elonsroadster:matrix.orgcolonelpanic I guess it seems like spacekitteh is the one who has been working on this PR? Have you been able to actually pair a matter/thread device? 03:31:48
@spacekitteh:matrix.orgspacekittehsorry i'll have a look this evening03:32:03
@elonsroadster:matrix.orgcolonelpanic are you aware that mrene had already set up a nixos module here https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/332296 03:33:43
@elonsroadster:matrix.orgcolonelpanicAnother possibly relevant detail is that I can never view the topology page in the web interface for the border router03:37:46
@elonsroadster:matrix.orgcolonelpanicAlso wonder if this warning message in the otbr agent could be relevant: "00:07:33.117 [W] Nat64---------: no mapping found for the IPv4 addres"03:45:55
@robert:funklause.dedotlambdaI've decided against blueprints written in Nix for now: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/37768804:07:16
@nazarewk:matrix.orgkdnAfter playing with Tuya for a while I want to get started with Home Assistant: got myself HA dongle and a few zigbee-enabled devices. Would you suggest running HA through NixOS or flash RPi4 4GB with their OS?13:11:27
@nazarewk:matrix.orgkdnpersonally I'm more comfortable managing NixOS than whatever distro would be there13:11:56
@laurynasp:matrix.orglaurynaspI guess you are asking for a cons vs pros between the two approaches - I am too new to provide such info 13:57:43
@laurynasp:matrix.orglaurynaspWhat i can share is that my aim is to have as automated setup as i can, hence I am using nixos to run ha in declarative way, and for that reason i picked raspbery pi 4B because it is most compatible. (I am using 8GB rather than 4GB but that is an orthoganal matter). However, for my journal of automated/scripted/decalrative setup of ha, I have been rather disappoitned, because I was not able to find an easy way to automated onboarding, but that is home-assitant's issue, not nixos modules issue. Still, ha module on nixos on pi 4B is the best i was able discover so far. 13:57:58
@laurynasp:matrix.orglaurynasp* What i can share is that my aim is to have as automated setup as i can, hence I am using nixos to run ha in declarative way, and for that reason i picked raspbery pi 4B because it is most compatible with nixos. (I am using 8GB rather than 4GB but that is an orthoganal matter). However, for my journal of automated/scripted/decalrative setup of ha, I have been rather disappoitned, because I was not able to find an easy way to automated onboarding, but that is home-assitant's issue, not nixos modules issue. Still, ha module on nixos on pi 4B is the best i was able discover so far. 13:58:28
@laurynasp:matrix.orglaurynasp* What i can share is that my aim is to have as automated setup as i can, hence I am using nixos to run ha in declarative way, and for that reason i picked raspbery pi 4B because it is most compatible with nixos. (I am using 8GB rather than 4GB but that is an orthoganal matter). However, for my aim of automated/scripted/declarative setup of ha, I have been rather disappoitned, because I was not able to find an easy way to automated onboarding, but that is home-assitant's issue, not nixos modules issue. Still, ha module on nixos on pi 4B is the best i was able discover so far. 13:58:49
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.network4 vs 8 GB does matter, if you want the rpi to evaluate and rebuild itself14:00:23
@laurynasp:matrix.orglaurynasp* What i can share is that my aim is to have as automated setup as i can, hence I am using nixos to run ha in declarative way, and for that reason i picked raspbery pi 4B because it is most compatible with nixos. (I am using 8GB rather than 4GB but that is an orthoganal matter). However, for my aim of automated/scripted/declarative setup of ha, I have been rather disappoitned, because I was not able to find an easy way to automated onboarding, but that is home-assitant's issue, not nixos modules issue. Still, ha module on nixos on pi 4B is the best i was able discover so far. My guess is that most ppl workaround to "redeployment" of the configs state is via restoring backups 14:00:25
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.network* 4 vs 8 GB does matter, if you want the rpi to evaluate and rebuild itself … aka do automatic upgrades14:00:42
@laurynasp:matrix.orglaurynasp Good point! Hexa, if deploymetns are build remotely, i.e.g by running nixos-rebuild --target-host user@$NIXOS_INSTALL_TARGET_IP switch --flake .#ha-rpi --use-remote-sudo on my main machine, would 4GB still be an issue? 14:03:08
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkprobably not14:03:26
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkbut remember that you need an arm64 builder for that, or do cross builds exclusively14:03:46

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