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@laurynasp:matrix.orglaurynasp

I am still at the early stages of understanding of HA design / architecture.
Is there a way to declare or script configuration flows?

I have come across the statement below on https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/blob/master/adr/0010-integration-configuration.md#decision

Integrations that communicate with devices and/or services are only configured via the UI. In rare cases, we can make an exception

Given my superficial understanding of HA, it would seem intentional effort to prevent from programatic configuration of devices and services. That sounds too suprising, that I am certain I have missed something.

Could anyone point to an example either on how to define configuration flows?

03:41:21
@laurynasp:matrix.orglaurynasp *

I am still at the early stages of understanding of HA design / architecture.
Is there a way to declare or script configuration flows?

I have come across the statement below on https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/blob/master/adr/0010-integration-configuration.md#decision

Integrations that communicate with devices and/or services are only configured via the UI. In rare cases, we can make an exception

Given my superficial understanding of HA, it would seem intentional effort to prevent from programatic configuration of devices and services. That sounds too suprising, that I am certain I have missed something.

Could anyone point to an example either on how to define configuration flows?

03:42:30
@laurynasp:matrix.orglaurynasp *

I am still at the early stages of understanding of HA design / architecture.
Is there a way to declare or script configuration flows?

I have come across the statement below on https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/blob/master/adr/0010-integration-configuration.md#decision

Integrations that communicate with devices and/or services are only configured via the UI. In rare cases, we can make an exception

Given my superficial understanding of HA, it would seem intentional effort to prevent from programatic configuration of devices and services. That sounds too suprising, that I am certain I have missed something.

If anyone could point me to an example on how to define configuration flows, would be greatly appreciated

03:43:57
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I am still at the early stages of understanding of HA design / architecture.
Is there a way to declare or script configuration flows?

I have come across the statement below on https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/blob/master/adr/0010-integration-configuration.md#decision

Integrations that communicate with devices and/or services are only configured via the UI. In rare cases, we can make an exception

Given my superficial understanding of HA, it would seem intentional effort to prevent from programatic configuration of devices and services. That sounds too suprising, that I am certain I have missed something.

If anyone could point me to an example on how to define configuration flows, would be greatly appreciated

It used to be possible to use only yaml for configuring essentially everything, but there is continuous progress to remove that ability
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@mfed3:matrix.orgmfed3Hey I searched this in the whole channel didn't see anyone reporting / talking about it11:20:43
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@mfed3:matrix.orgmfed3It appears the nixos configuration settings have not caught up to that change:11:21:59
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@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkthere is an open issue about it11:22:46
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/37367411:22:59
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@mfed3:matrix.orgmfed3Ah awesome thanks hexa11:23:11
@mfed3:matrix.orgmfed3I'll just leave my config on imperial for now since it's only a warning 11:23:43
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkdoes it say when that was deprecated11:24:51
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkand when that is going to be removed11:24:55
@mfed3:matrix.orgmfed3It told me 25.1 it's "deprecated" which we're in on nixos unstable already but didn't say when it would truly throw an error unfortunately11:25:31
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkI mean … y'all get the warning since probably 2025.1.011:25:34
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkok, cool11:25:42
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkso no backport11:25:44
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/37402511:25:53
@mfed3:matrix.orgmfed3Yea true we're technically on 2025.1.211:26:00
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkI'm going to make it a hard swich11:26:12
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkso we can nudge more people to switch that at eval time11:26:28
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkI guess11:26:29
@mfed3:matrix.orgmfed3Sounds good, 11:36:38
@mfed3:matrix.orgmfed3* Sounds good11:36:43
@gwilliams:matrix.orgSamsonitehey hexa sorry if i'm getting annoying at this point, in an effort to not keep spamming my homeassistant/frigate issue here, should i open an issue or request or something in github?14:05:05
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkhm so14:05:25
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networktry one more thing14:05:28

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