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12 Jun 2021
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)This guy is a ticking timebomb. home-assistant should not consider there code: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/12632615:15:51
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Is he a core contributor of home-assistant15:17:15
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkWow.15:17:19
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkYes15:17:22
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkProbably even part of Nabu Casa, not sure15:17:48
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)https://community.home-assistant.io/t/consider-to-avoid-adding-library-dependencies-from-frenck/31518515:27:04
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old) hexa: please merge ;) https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/126678 15:32:46
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkI'm on the phone in the pool right now15:34:17
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkI'll take a look in a bit15:34:22
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old) lukegb (he/him): or Fabian Affolter could probably also merge. 15:34:44
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.network lukegb (he/him): thanks, I think this was a good decision 16:24:47
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkhttps://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/5177916:39:38
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networksuch a platinum integration16:39:43
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)The best of the best of the best sir.16:40:28
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkBest guess is: This is about potential influx of support cases16:41:25
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkWorst guess is: This is about monetization, no sponsorship button when installing via nixpkgs16:41:43
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him)The fun part is, even if he changes the license to exclude us from redistributing it, we're still allowed to if he uploads it to PyPi16:42:10
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I think it is the latter one, otherwise he would have been more upfront.16:42:23
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him) because the PyPi ToS explicit grant the PSF and all users of the website rights to distribute 16:42:33
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)I think also pypi does not allow you to depublish stuff easily16:42:47
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkWorst case then would be not submitting tests to PyPi16:42:48
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him)Right.16:42:53
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkwhich is a setuptools kind of thing to do16:43:26
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkI don't think pyproject projects usually do that16:43:34
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkand yet, there are no tests on PyPi16:43:50
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkhttps://github.com/frenck/python-ambee/blob/main/pyproject.toml#L23-L2516:44:10
@hexa:lossy.network@hexa:lossy.networkI'm disappointed that he considers our home-assistant to be "broken"16:44:37
@andi:kack.it@andi:kack.itWhat is the stance of the other home assistant people towards what supported systems are? Them running their own distribution is nice but I always feared it will at some point be the only supported way of running it.18:33:36
@fabaff:matrix.orgFabian AffolterThere has to be made a distinction between the Home Assistant Community and Nabucasa. NC would prefer if there is only HassOS. The target audience for HassOS are home users and home users are likely to pay for the cloud integration.18:58:06
@fabaff:matrix.orgFabian Affolter The community is running Home Assistant wherever they can (NAS, Kubernetes, venv, all kind of operating systems and hardware platforms). Those users often don't want an additional Raspi running and are capable to have remote access in a secure way 19:00:10

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