| 13 Jun 2021 |
 dotlambda | While browsing the forum I came across https://community.home-assistant.io/t/block-nabucasa/315377/3. HA has become a 100% commercial product. | 13:53:09 |
 @hexa:lossy.network | yep, don't use default_config | 13:54:05 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | though I respect that they want to invest more time in home-assistant, because it actually is a good thing compared to all the cloud crap out there | 13:54:33 |
| dotlambda | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
yep, don't use default_config That might be a good thing to add to our documentation. | 13:55:11 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | yeah, I think our documentation is lacking quite a bit | 13:55:58 |
| dotlambda | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
in the forum post by Mic92 Do you have a link? | 13:56:39 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Home-assistant | 13:58:18 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | yup, just the wiki | 13:58:28 |
| dotlambda | Paulus made a comment in our wiki? | 13:59:46 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | oh, sorry | 14:00:41 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | https://community.home-assistant.io/u/mic92/activity/topics | 14:02:51 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | they deleted it | 14:02:57 |
 Mic92 (Old) | Unlisted | 14:03:23 |
| dotlambda | Mic92: | 14:03:46 |
| dotlambda | * Mic92: Can you send a screenshot? | 14:03:54 |
| Mic92 (Old) | dotlambda: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/consider-to-avoid-adding-library-dependencies-from-frenck/315185/4 | 14:05:58 |
| dotlambda | Thanks! | 14:06:08 |
| Mic92 (Old) | Whos is Paulus? | 14:06:46 |
| Mic92 (Old) | * Who is Paulus? | 14:06:54 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | balloob | 14:07:31 |
| dotlambda | I read the forum post and I must say I agree that lukegb (he/him) 's locking of the PR seems premature.
But I also agree that "he asked nicely" is not really true cause FOSS discussions are technical and he denied to go that route.
Maybe we should still make it even more obvious that issues should be reported to us if in doubt, by saying so in the wiki and the module options' descriptions. Then we should let upstream know we did so. | 14:23:59 |
| Mic92 (Old) | I agree with that. | 14:30:55 |
 lukegb (he/him) | In reply to @robert:funklause.de
I read the forum post and I must say I agree that lukegb (he/him) 's locking of the PR seems premature.
But I also agree that "he asked nicely" is not really true cause FOSS discussions are technical and he denied to go that route.
Maybe we should still make it even more obvious that issues should be reported to us if in doubt, by saying so in the wiki and the module options' descriptions. Then we should let upstream know we did so. The discussion had gone on for 10 comments or so, and it was clear it wasn't going to make progress. Also he decided to start spam-opening issues *shrug* | 15:39:19 |
| lukegb (he/him) | It's difficult to have a conversation with someone who doesn't engage and just copies and pastes the same message over and over again | 15:39:45 |
| dotlambda | In reply to @lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninja
The discussion had gone on for 10 comments or so, and it was clear it wasn't going to make progress. Also he decided to start spam-opening issues *shrug* Talking about the issues: Why don't we close all but one? | 15:43:13 |
 Ekleog | lukegb (he/him): Agree with you that there was little else you could do, but IMO in this kind of cases where there's no literal aggression, closing the issue can be perceived as us abusing our rights, so maybe just doing nothing (including not replying would have “solved” the issue | 20:30:51 |
| lukegb (he/him) | I'd rather discussion about this general issue happen on Discourse tbh :p | 15:43:56 |
| Ekleog | basically letting the issues die in the usual nixpkgs cemetery, and then in three years someone from triage comes across them and closes because they made no sense in the first place (one shouldn't make their code open if they don't want it to be actually used) | 20:31:38 |
| Ekleog | * lukegb (he/him): Agree with you that there was little else you could do, but IMO in this kind of cases where there's no literal aggression, closing the issue can be perceived as us abusing our rights, so maybe just doing nothing (including not replying) would have “solved” the issue | 20:31:54 |
| Ekleog | (I know that if I came across this issue with no comments for like 1 month, I'd have closed with a comment like “Nixpkgs wants to package home-assistant, and as of today home-assistant depends on this library; so as of today we can't just remove this package. Alternative options have been provided in the thread but appear to not be interesting to the issue reporter, so let's close as there is nothing actionable here.”) | 20:34:22 |
