| 14 Jun 2021 |
 colemickens 🏳️🌈 | cc: etu | 21:30:37 |
 vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️ | And I've seen an official manual for their protocol so they care about DIY segment somewhat | 21:31:15 |
| colemickens 🏳️🌈 | I have also been disappointed to see HA seem to embrace "productization" and point-and-click statefulness over what I perceived to be a simpler declarative static model when I first adopted it. | 21:31:11 |
 @hexa:lossy.network | smart home to me also means metrics, and automation based on these metrics | 21:31:24 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | and a common interface to same-in-class devices of different vendors | 21:31:52 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | the move to statefullness of home-assistant also has me slightly worried, I started using home-assistant way back with v0.21, and back then yaml was king | 21:33:05 |
 @etu:semi.social | In reply to @colemickens:matrix.org
cc: etu I would really like to move away from Hass really, I don't use super many integrations really... I could probably build something similar buy depending on the same libraries... | 21:39:05 |
| @etu:semi.social | But currently I'm very preoccupied with family things | 21:39:29 |
| vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
smart home to me also means metrics, and automation based on these metrics metrics could probably be collected with a separate component, I don't think it's impossible to fit in the model I described | 21:40:02 |
| @etu:semi.social | Metrics doesn't have to be built in, if current state of things are exposed, another component can scrape that to build metrics | 21:41:24 |
| @etu:semi.social | Then things can check the metrics component to fire events | 21:41:47 |
 dotlambda | How do I mark Home Assistant component tests as online only? Is that something upstream does at all? | 22:34:59 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | I thought about adding pytest.mark.network upstream, if they're interested | 22:36:28 |
| dotlambda | But you didn't try it yet? | 22:36:55 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | no, I did not | 22:37:10 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | this is the kind of thing we need social capital for 🤔 | 22:37:47 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | because it is working for them already | 22:38:00 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | no added value | 22:38:07 |
| dotlambda | And what about having a big patch just for us that adds these marks everywhere? | 22:40:16 |
| dotlambda | I guess we should try upstreaming them first. | 22:40:27 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | testing them downstream, making sure they're working well, then upstream | 22:40:48 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | make the process painless | 22:40:53 |
| dotlambda | I'm not too invested but if you make a PR upstream, feel free to add test_form_invalid_auth and test_form_cannot_connect from wallbox's tests. | 22:43:33 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/126895 | 23:27:30 |
| 15 Jun 2021 |
 Zhaofeng Li | Actually, someone should DM balloob/home_assistant to let them know about the HN thread. I think it's only fair and they don't seem to be aware. | 01:11:30 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | I would be surprised if they hadn't discussed that internally yet | 01:13:06 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | pretty sure that is what turned the reaction around | 01:13:47 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?diff=5894&oldid=5892 | 02:11:59 |
| @hexa:lossy.network | first draft of a limited support passage | 02:12:18 |
 Mic92 (Old) | I won't do anything right now in this matter over the couple next week. I have other priorities right now. | 07:05:09 |
