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12 Jun 2021
@fabaff:matrix.orgFabian Affolter hexa: yeah, the tracking in the project doesn't work well at the moment 11:57:14
@fabaff:matrix.orgFabian Affolter * hexa: yeah, the tracking in the project board doesn't work well at the moment 11:58:08
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
Fabian Affolter: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/126326#issuecomment-857620450 what's going on here?
And this?
12:23:32
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaAh i see, he does not grok nixpkgs12:24:19
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him)"Slightly assholic at first sight 🤒" yup, can confirm12:34:43
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaindeed13:53:17
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaI quoted that yesterday in a private conversation13:53:26
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahoped for "Actually a nice guy that just likes to get stuff done"13:53:40
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaso, looking at the packages he maintains … that also includes wled13:54:03
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand I'm using wled13:54:06
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaso I'm moderately pissed13:54:10
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
  • adguardhome
  • toonapi
  • wled
  • twentemilieu
13:56:20
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
  • 12: "adguard" = ps: with ps; [ adguardhome ];
  • 868: "toon" = ps: with ps; [ aiohttp-cors hass-nabucasa toonapi ];
  • 953: "wled" = ps: with ps; [ wled ];
    886: "twentemilieu" = ps: with ps; [ twentemilieu ];
13:57:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa *
  • 12: "adguard" = ps: with ps; [ adguardhome ];
  • 868: "toon" = ps: with ps; [ aiohttp-cors hass-nabucasa toonapi ];
  • 953: "wled" = ps: with ps; [ wled ];
  • 886: "twentemilieu" = ps: with ps; [ twentemilieu ];
13:57:19
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him) We were having a bit of a discussion in #dev:nixos.org 13:57:25
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him)I think... there's precedent for ignoring upstream's wishes to not package software in e.g. Debian13:57:38
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaawesome13:57:59
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him)if it was a leaf package or of relatively little importance I'd be inclined to agree13:58:03
@hexa:lossy.networkhexalet's add a note to these packages though, not to bother upstream at all13:58:11
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him)but it might be good to include something in the nixpkgs manual regarding our policy for this13:58:16
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaif we decide to go that route13:58:27
@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him) (when I say "upstream's wishes" I don't mean this upstream, I mean upstreams in general) 13:58:38
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
indeed
Just ignore him.
14:52:31
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)He cannot really tell us what to do.14:52:44
@fabaff:matrix.orgFabian AffolterNot the fist time that the person in question is acting that way.14:53:54
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)
In reply to @fabaff:matrix.org
Not the fist time that the person in question is acting that way.
ok. if we starts attacking people on a personal level, we can block him.
14:54:27
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)
In reply to @fabaff:matrix.org
Not the fist time that the person in question is acting that way.
* ok. if he starts attacking people on a personal level, we can block him.
14:54:49
@fabaff:matrix.orgFabian AffolterI try to go the "Fedora-way" and keep an open relation to upstream. Upstream and downstream project can benefit from each other14:55:28
@joerg:bethselamin.deMic92 (Old)Sure but here it seems like there is no point and zero interest14:56:29
@fabaff:matrix.orgFabian Affolter "I don't like it" is not really a reason and asking politely doesn't make the request more legit 14:59:16

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