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16 Oct 2024
mattleon	In reply to @mackeveli:matrix.org Gotcha, I'll look into some SBCs with those SoCs I've been happy with the orangepi5 (and the 5b, I have both). The 5 supports NVMe, which is miles ahead of SD card. I run frigate on the NPU with hardware decoding and encoding of the video streams, which allows me to run object detection with ~0% cpu usage.	16:02:09
K900	Note that neither the NPU nor the video stuff works well on mainline yet	16:02:34
K900	So you will have to deal with vendor kernel nonsense, at least for the time being	16:02:47
mattleon	Vendor kernels are pretty annoying to work with, but the orangepi5 can compile the joshua-riek kernels in about 25 minutes, so it's not too bad.	16:03:27
mattleon	The rk3588 was faster in several real world situations than my laptop with an i7-8565U at 1/8th the power draw at peak, which was mindboggling to me. Storage is quite a bit slower due to older (and fewer) PCIe lanes to the NVMe than on modern x86	16:06:06
@hexa:lossy.network	sus 😄	16:08:25
@hexa:lossy.network	but yeah, laptop cores are often potatoes	16:08:35
mattleon	In reply to @hexa:lossy.network but yeah, laptop cores are often potatoes It was fanless, so it throttled down to < 2Ghz after 2 minutes of load	16:19:18
Mackeveli	What I'll likely do is have one board for services that require constant uptime bc my household will use them, like Jellyfin, HASS, and Immich (no ML stuff), then save the other board for less important services that I'll mainly be using. If an Orange Pi 16GB can handle those 3 services (very light usage of Jellyfin) and can run NixOS fairly easily, then I may go with it. mattleon Have you got an example NixOS configuration for your Orange Pi?	16:20:27
K900	It can handle that fine, as long as you don't want hardware encoding for Jellyfin	16:21:49
mattleon	In reply to @mackeveli:matrix.org What I'll likely do is have one board for services that require constant uptime bc my household will use them, like Jellyfin, HASS, and Immich (no ML stuff), then save the other board for less important services that I'll mainly be using. If an Orange Pi 16GB can handle those 3 services (very light usage of Jellyfin) and can run NixOS fairly easily, then I may go with it. mattleon Have you got an example NixOS configuration for your Orange Pi? This flake is a good starting point, my config is forked from an older version and switched over to the joshua-riek kernel: github.com/ryan4yin/nixos-rk3588 The joshua-riek kernel should support hardware encoding and decoding, though it's a good idea to have someone with an rk3588 board check before you buy (if you give me a source and dest format / ffmpeg line you want to use, happy to give it a shot)	16:28:48
Mackeveli	In reply to @mattleon:matrix.org This flake is a good starting point, my config is forked from an older version and switched over to the joshua-riek kernel: github.com/ryan4yin/nixos-rk3588 The joshua-riek kernel should support hardware encoding and decoding, though it's a good idea to have someone with an rk3588 board check before you buy (if you give me a source and dest format / ffmpeg line you want to use, happy to give it a shot) Thanks, I'll take a look at that flake and do some more research on the Orange Pi to see if I'll pick it up. As for encoding/decoding, I'm not super familiar with the process as I don't tend to use Jellyfin very often or do video editing, but either H264 or AV1 encoding MP4 files seems like a solid start `ffmpeg -i input. mp4 -c:v libaom-av1 -strict -2 output.mp4` / `ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -c:v libx264 -tune film output.mp4`	16:57:09
K900	Those are both CPU encoding	16:57:27
@adam:robins.wtf	rpi considered harmful around here :)	17:44:22
mattleon	I spun up a jellyfin container on my orange pi 5 on nixos, and it logged this: Oct 16 19:03:17 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:17] [INF] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Found ffmpeg version 6.0.1 Oct 16 19:03:17 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:17] [INF] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Available decoders: ["libdav1d", "av1", "av1_rkmpp", "h264", "h264_rkmpp", "hevc", "hevc_rkmpp", "mpeg1_rkmpp", "mpeg2video", "mpeg2_rkmpp", "mpeg4", "mpeg4_rkmpp", "msmpeg4", "vp8", "vp8_rkmpp", "libvpx", "vp9", "vp9_rkmpp", "libvpx-vp9", "aac", "ac3", "dca", "flac", "mp3", "truehd"] Oct 16 19:03:17 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:17] [INF] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Available encoders: ["libsvtav1", "libx264", "h264_v4l2m2m", "h264_rkmpp", "libx265", "hevc_rkmpp", "mpeg4", "msmpeg4", "libvpx", "libvpx-vp9", "aac", "libfdk_aac", "ac3", "alac", "dca", "flac", "libmp3lame", "libopus", "truehd", "libvorbis", "srt"] Oct 16 19:03:17 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:17] [INF] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Available filters: ["overlay_opencl", "overlay_rkrga", "scale_opencl", "scale_rkrga", "tonemap_opencl", "vpp_rkrga", "zscale", "alphasrc"] Oct 16 19:03:17 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:17] [WRN] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Filter: scale_cuda with option Output format (default "same") is not available Oct 16 19:03:17 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:17] [WRN] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Filter: tonemap_cuda with option GPU accelerated HDR to SDR tonemapping is not available Oct 16 19:03:18 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:18] [WRN] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Filter: overlay_vaapi with option Action to take when encountering EOF from secondary input is not available Oct 16 19:03:18 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:18] [WRN] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Filter: overlay_vulkan with option Action to take when encountering EOF from secondary input is not available Oct 16 19:03:18 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:18] [INF] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Available hwaccel types: ["drm", "opencl", "rkmpp"] Oct 16 19:03:18 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:18] [INF] [4] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: FFmpeg: /usr/lib/jellyfin-ffmpeg/ffmpeg Oct 16 19:03:18 orangutan jellyfin[1380]: [23:03:18] [INF] [4] Emby.Server.Implementations.ApplicationHost: ServerId: 75f42f46993e44689bc26fe7756194d4 Notably, it does appear to support hardware av1, h264, h265, vp8, and vp9 decoding, and h264 and h265 encoding (the "_rkmpp" suffix denotes rockchip hw acceleration)	23:07:18
@hexa:lossy.network	hm	23:14:22
@hexa:lossy.network	MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Found ffmpeg version 6.0.1 MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Available decoders: ["libdav1d", "av1", "av1_cuvid", "h264", "h264_cuvid", "hevc", "hevc_cuvid", "mpeg2video", "mpeg2_cuvid", "mpeg4", "mpeg4_cuvid", "msmpeg4", "vc1_cuvid", "vp8", "libvpx", "vp8_cuvid", "vp9", "libvpx-vp9", "vp9_cuvid", "aac", "ac3", "dca", "flac", "mp3", "truehd"] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Available encoders: ["av1_nvenc", "av1_vaapi", "libx264", "h264_nvenc", "h264_v4l2m2m", "h264_vaapi", "libx265", "hevc_nvenc", "hevc_vaapi", "mjpeg_vaapi", "mpeg4", "msmpeg4", "libvpx", "libvpx-vp9", "aac", "ac3", "alac", "dca", "flac", "libmp3lame", "libopus", "truehd", "libvorbis", "srt"] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Available filters: ["deinterlace_vaapi", "hwupload_cuda", "hwupload_vaapi", "libplacebo", "overlay_opencl", "overlay_vaapi", "overlay_vulkan", "overlay_cuda", "procamp_vaapi", "scale_cuda", "scale_opencl", "scale_vaapi", "scale_vulkan", "tonemap_cuda", "tonemap_opencl", "tonemap_vaapi", "yadif_cuda", "zscale", "alphasrc"] MediaBrowser.MediaEncoding.Encoder.MediaEncoder: Available hwaccel types: ["vdpau", "cuda", "vaapi", "drm", "opencl", "vulkan"]	23:16:03
@hexa:lossy.network	with just `services.jellyfin.enable` on the rock 5b with mainline 6.11.3	23:16:18
mattleon	I believe the rkmpp requires the BSP kernel	23:16:45
mattleon	Though I curiously see `nvenc` listed there, do you have a gpu attached to your rock 5b?	23:17:08
@hexa:lossy.network	vaapi should be accelerated, no?	23:17:11
@hexa:lossy.network	no	23:17:14
@hexa:lossy.network	just the panthor gpu enabled	23:17:21
@hexa:lossy.network	[ 12.685043] hantro-vpu fdc70000.video-codec: registered rockchip,rk3588-av1-vpu-dec as /dev/video0	23:17:29
@hexa:lossy.network	and av1 decoder registered	23:17:36
mattleon	In reply to @hexa:lossy.network with just `services.jellyfin.enable` on the rock 5b with mainline 6.11.3 I ran this with `virtualisation.oci-containers.containers.jellyfin`. Let me try again with `services.jellyfin.enable`	23:18:29
@hexa:lossy.network	I don't expect any change fwiw	23:19:20
@hexa:lossy.network	you run a custom kernel, so it probably has patches on top to enable this	23:19:36
@hexa:lossy.network	same as with frigate, the npu is not mainline supported yet	23:20:08
@hexa:lossy.network	neither in the linux devicetree nor in mesa	23:20:23

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