| 27 Oct 2021 |
 sterni | all in all I'd prefer a regular report that has to be compiled anyways for tax reasons (I assume) over some website that gets updated in an unknown way for transparency, tbh | 21:35:10 |
| sterni | or does the foundation have close to 70000€ in (atm) unused funds? | 21:37:42 |
 @grahamc:nixos.org | not totally sure, one thing we're intentionally saving for is if we lose funding for the binary cache and need to cover its costs ourselves for a while | 21:48:24 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | that is quite a lot of money each month (~$10k+, IIRC) | 21:48:40 |
 Domen Kožar | I think we should take care of that before it happens unexpectedly | 23:16:44 |
| Domen Kožar | I offer to help with that with all transparency | 23:17:14 |
| Domen Kožar | Then we can use the funds to help community without the fear of holding to funds indefinitely | 23:17:50 |
| Domen Kožar | The calm fund that invested in Cachix is partnering up with cloudflare, I could work on getting sponsorship for NixOS foundation | 23:23:05 |
| Domen Kožar | It would be good to start that process before the panic hits | 23:23:23 |
| Domen Kožar | But I'd need some kind of approval from the foundation so that the work is not in vain | 23:23:45 |
 Alyssa Ross | do you mean get, like, backup sponsorship for if the current sponsorship falls through? | 23:25:08 |
| Domen Kožar | No, to transition to cloudflare as soon as possible. Our current sponsorship doesn't have a formal agreement | 23:26:09 |
| Alyssa Ross | And Cloudflare would give us a formal agreement, and fastly would not give us a formal agreement? | 23:26:35 |
| Domen Kožar | That puts us at risk, not just that someone might stop paying but also if a company bankrupts or something unexpected happens, we could lose all data. | 23:27:04 |
 hexa | pretty sure we're talking storage, so cloudflare r2 vs amazon s3 | 23:27:11 |
| hexa | fastly is just a caching proxy | 23:27:28 |
| Alyssa Ross | oh, I see | 23:27:33 |
| Domen Kožar | Yeah, I'm mostly talking about storage. | 23:27:46 |
| Alyssa Ross | well, same question — why would we get a formal agreement from cloudflare and not from whoever's currently providing it? (Who is that btw?) | 23:28:12 |
| Domen Kožar | That's complicated | 23:28:31 |
| Domen Kožar | All I know is that I'd want a formal agreement going forward so that the risk is minimized | 23:28:55 |
| Domen Kožar | This is the most critical bit of infrastructure we have | 23:29:50 |
| Alyssa Ross | seems like getting a formal agreement from whoever it currently is would be the thing to try first, no? because if that works there's no need for a big infrastructure change | 23:29:54 |
| Alyssa Ross | so discussing migrating to cloudflare, if we haven't even tried to take this up with the current sponsor, sounds premature? | 23:30:24 |
| Domen Kožar | Alyssa Ross that would most likely trigger them to stop paying | 23:30:28 |
| Alyssa Ross | that does sound precarious | 23:31:00 |
| Domen Kožar | I'd want a plan B first | 23:31:03 |
 tomberek | When accepting donations, it can be perceived as poor form to start dictating the terms of donation. | 23:31:11 |
| hexa | moving 200+TB out of S3 probably isn't cheap either | 23:31:43 |
| Alyssa Ross | dictating isn't the same as asking | 23:31:45 |
