| 21 Aug 2025 |
 dramforever | but we could have machines for y'all to play with | 16:02:58 |
 Mic92 | @hexa:lossy.network: is it queue runner or infra week? | 16:03:18 |
 hexa | infra, but I have another duty to attend to | 16:03:36 |
 Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | infra | 16:03:40 |
| hexa | please talk about the state of the union slides | 16:03:41 |
| hexa | we need them done in time for nixcon | 16:03:49 |
| Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | can you share them with jeremyfleischman@gmail.com? | 16:04:05 |
| Mic92 | No one in the jitsi anyway | 16:04:30 |
| dramforever | honestly my hope is on either rivos just booping out some servers in 2026 or 2027, or tenstorrent somehow making it work | 16:04:44 |
| Mic92 | Or did we use something else | 16:04:45 |
| Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | i'm in https://meet.cccda.de/nix-osin-fra | 16:04:53 |
| dramforever | 2025 and early 2026 risc-v is just not happening | 16:05:00 |
| hexa | (the pattern is weird, because meet wants it that way 😄) | 16:05:13 |
| hexa | (will probably be changed down the road, not sure) | 16:05:22 |
| Mic92 | Will join in 5 min | 16:06:57 |
| Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | nevermind, looks like i have access | 16:07:54 |
| Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | err, view only access. so edit would be nice | 16:10:16 |
| Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | oh, silvan's here. we'll get access =) | 16:10:50 |
| 22 Aug 2025 |
|  elikoga changed their profile picture. | 17:28:52 |
 Winter | you | 21:58:04 |
| Winter | * you'd think the drv would always be available on mimas? | 21:58:16 |
| Winter | unless we just like... gc drvs ~consistently | 21:58:26 |
| Winter | which would explain it | 21:58:31 |
| Winter | but either way surprised this isn't persisted in the hydra db | 21:58:40 |
| hexa | we keep derivations, but not outputs | 22:06:08 |
| 23 Aug 2025 |
 dgrig | Copy pasting from the nix manpage:
keep-derivations ⟨#conf-keep-derivations⟩
If true (default), the garbage collector will keep the derivations from which non-garbage store paths were built. If false,
they will be deleted unless explicitly registered as a root (or reachable from other roots).
Keeping derivation around is useful for querying and traceability (e.g., it allows you to ask with what dependencies or op‐
tions a store path was built), so by default this option is on. Turn it off to save a bit of disk space (or a lot if keep-
outputs is also turned on).
Since we're gc'ing outputs and it specifies "will keep the derivations from which non-garbage store paths were built", I believe this will also gc derivations?
| 00:34:24 |
| hexa | ah, yeah | 00:35:17 |
| 25 Aug 2025 |
|  @federicodschonborn:matrix.org changed their display name from Cat McFishface 🏳️🌈 (he/they) to Mr. Bones (he/they). | 13:37:34 |
| 26 Aug 2025 |
| Winter | is it expected that channels.nixos.org lags behind the hydra jobsets? e.g. https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/trunk-combined#tabs-evaluations, i fetched nixos-unstable on 2025-08-25 10:55 -0400 and got https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1817796 from the 19th | 21:58:21 |
| Winter | ~5-6 days of lag seems... odd? | 21:58:35 |
