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4 Aug 2025
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu *

Hey all

Was already talking to Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) about this and I believe @avocadoom pinged hexa (signing key rotation when) about this as well. Bringing the conversation here now. The marketing team would like infra's help with ideas and possibly roll out for hosting the new branding assets.

I have this PR open for creating a branding page and that shows the guide and logos.But as @avocadoom reminded me, we don't want the website to be the single source of truth for branding assets going forward.

Two options discussed so far are hosting the assets on GH Pages or S3 + Fastly.

I had concerns about every new release inflating the repo over time. Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) pointed out we could force push every new release into a single commit which seems fine. Another concerns I have is if these would cause any issues with rate limiting or misuse of GH pages. Maybe this concern is unfounded?

No concerns I could think of regarding S3 + Fastly. Would require more work from Infra though

Totally open to other ideas and options!

01:35:27
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu *

Hey all

Was already talking to Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) about this and I believe @avocadoom pinged hexa (signing key rotation when) about this as well. Bringing the conversation here now. The marketing team would like infra's help with ideas and possibly roll out for hosting the new branding assets.

I have this PR open for creating a branding page and that shows the guide and logos.
https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1819
But as @avocadoom reminded me, we don't want the website to be the single source of truth for branding assets going forward.

Two options discussed so far are hosting the assets on GH Pages or S3 + Fastly.

I had concerns about every new release inflating the repo over time. Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) pointed out we could force push every new release into a single commit which seems fine. Another concerns I have is if these would cause any issues with rate limiting or misuse of GH pages. Maybe this concern is unfounded?

No concerns I could think of regarding S3 + Fastly. Would require more work from Infra though

Totally open to other ideas and options!

01:35:42
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacuCompletely separate request. I am trying to create a new survey in LimeSurvey for the 2025 Community Survey, and when I try to create a new survey, it fails with "Access denied".01:45:12
@hexa:lossy.networkhexasays you are an admin here01:47:34
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa the limesurvey is usually managed by the folks in #survey:nixos.org. maybe they can help? 01:48:38
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)

Re: hosting the branding assets. I'd vote for github pages, and if we run into issues, we can change things.

Do you know what the goal is re: url/domain name? I guess I'm trying to understand what "source of truth" means. I'd think in any universe, the git repo is still the source of truth.

Is it perhaps about who gates updating the website? Like the website team doesn't want to be a blocker for future updates to the branding?

01:50:52
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátI'm unclear about what use is expected for these assets. Like, are webs expected to reference it and generate traffic to "us" that way?06:57:22
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92
In reply to @djacu:matrix.org

Hey all

Was already talking to Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) about this and I believe @avocadoom pinged hexa (signing key rotation when) about this as well. Bringing the conversation here now. The marketing team would like infra's help with ideas and possibly roll out for hosting the new branding assets.

I have this PR open for creating a branding page and that shows the guide and logos.
https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/pull/1819
But as @avocadoom reminded me, we don't want the website to be the single source of truth for branding assets going forward.

Two options discussed so far are hosting the assets on GH Pages or S3 + Fastly.

I had concerns about every new release inflating the repo over time. Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) pointed out we could force push every new release into a single commit which seems fine. Another concerns I have is if these would cause any issues with rate limiting or misuse of GH pages. Maybe this concern is unfounded?

No concerns I could think of regarding S3 + Fastly. Would require more work from Infra though

Totally open to other ideas and options!

I would say whatever is more convenient. As long as you don't add video content, it shouldn't be a big issue. As long as we control the dns, we can relocate as needed.
07:55:12
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92* I would say whatever is more convenient. As long as you don't add video content, it shouldn't be a big issue to store it in git. As long as we control the dns, we can relocate as needed.07:56:58
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92
In reply to @joerg:thalheim.io
Do what degree were you able to test that?
@matthewkenigsberg:matrix.org: oh please don't use matrix threads. I only discover answers by accident. As for testing there is a way to create a free account on fastly. I could apply the change as is and hope for the best otherwise. In my experience it hasn't worked first try unfortunately
08:03:24
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro A friend just let me know that latest-nixos-gnome-x86_64-linux.iso on https://channels.nixos.org/?prefix=nixos-25.05-small/ links to https://releases.nixos.org/nixos/25.05-small/nixos-25.05.807449.ce01daebf848/nixos-gnome-25.05.807449.ce01daebf848-aarch64-linux.iso.sha256 which is a 404 13:34:34
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaRedacted or Malformed Event13:35:12
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaalso, small does not have ISOs anymore13:35:29
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa* small does not have ISOs anymore13:35:54
@sandro:supersandro.deSandroa good to know13:36:20
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátWhen did -small have graphical ISOs?13:36:26
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátThe links on that page are "generic". Lots of the stuff doesn't exist.13:37:12
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát* The links on that page are "generic". Lots of the stuff intentionally doesn't exist.13:37:27
@hexa:lossy.networkhexagraphical never, only minimal 13:38:32
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátRedacted or Malformed Event13:38:45
@hexa:lossy.networkhexafrankly, I don't know why we have the trailing slash prefixes13:38:57
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátOops. I thought I was wrong. Let me repost. Maybe it's better to use links like https://releases.nixos.org/?prefix=nixos/25.05-small/ ?13:40:06
@sandro:supersandro.deSandrotrue, especially since the combined ISO13:40:27
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacuSorry. By source of truth we meant that we don't want people to treat where the logo files are in the website as stable paths for linking. E.g. the Infra and Nixpkgs README files were previously linking to paths in the website to display the logo in the readme. The goal would be serving up the branding artifacts (currently just logos and branding guide PDF) to a location where we can use it for the website and repos can use it for their README15:33:51
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly) djacu, that makes sense! Pick the tech you want to use, and let us know how we can help. I imagine at the very least you'll need a DNS entry. Feel free to send us a PR (relevant code here), or just ask for help here. 16:43:15
@sandro:supersandro.deSandroIs it just me or is hydra currently insanely slow? every request takes like 10s17:55:58
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://grafana.nixos.org/d/fejx5cl0i0s1sb/anubis?orgId=1&from=now-24h&to=now&timezone=utc&var-site=hydra.nixos.org:9001&viewPanel=panel-318:08:36
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaCan take a look in 30m18:08:53
@sandro:supersandro.deSandrohmmm, so someone or something is doing lots of load currently...18:20:40
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