| 14 Mar 2026 |
 tomberek | Scaleway is interested in sponsoring in the form of providing hardware and compute. What would the infra team be most interested in from them? They mentioned providing builders from idle availability zones and Apple Silicon. Also interest in RISC-V and a cache for it. Don't limit to just that though, what would have the greatest impact? | 21:37:15 |
 hexa | I guess something of each would be interesting. We do have an Apple bottleneck, but with x86_64-darwin loosing support after 26.05 we shouldn't optimize too much on that. | 22:11:29 |
| hexa | say another chonky x86_64-linux, aarch64-linux and two mac minis | 22:12:10 |
| hexa | * say another chonky x86_64-linux and aarch64-linux server and two mac minis | 22:12:21 |
| hexa | risc-v is at the cusp of becoming interesting, but most cpus are potatoes from what i know | 22:12:43 |
| hexa | the question would be when to start buying into it | 22:12:52 |
| hexa | * the question would be when to start buying into it and if that point is already here | 22:13:03 |
| hexa | we will not target anything below rv23a (the instruction set including vector and virtualization extensions) | 22:13:40 |
| hexa | you can open a ticket with fastly here https://support.fastly.com/s/contactsupport | 22:14:46 |
| hexa | you should include the traceroute ideally and ask whether they know why your download performance over this path is slow | 22:15:12 |
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| 15 Mar 2026 |
| hexa | and for the mac minis the lower bound for disk space should be 512 GB. we'll run out of disk space too often on smaller disks. | 00:01:19 |
 dramforever | why | 01:09:23 |
| hexa | because no other distro does | 01:09:42 |
| hexa | mostly because the instruction set before was a grab bag | 01:10:03 |
| hexa | and nothing you could properly target as a baseline | 01:10:13 |
| dramforever | ... what? only ubuntu doesn't | 01:10:13 |
| hexa | fair, but as a distro we are much more rebuild heavy than all other distros | 01:11:50 |
| hexa | maybe except gentoo | 01:11:54 |
| dramforever | rva23 does not mean better performance | 01:12:04 |
| hexa | and what I've seen is that they barely beat an a55/a73 setup | 01:12:08 |
| hexa | the scaleway offer is for c910 cpus from what I can tell | 01:12:30 |
| hexa | will they even keep up with unstable-small rebuilds between staging merges? | 01:13:38 |
| dramforever | it does not mean we should turn on -march=rva23u64 while building | 01:14:01 |
| hexa | fair, whatever | 01:14:15 |
| hexa | I'm not insisting on that | 01:14:20 |
| dramforever | we can only do it with faster cpus | 01:14:34 |
| dramforever | if that's what you mean | 01:14:39 |
| hexa | yes | 01:14:43 |
| dramforever | i'm fine with that | 01:14:51 |
