| 27 Mar 2026 |
 Vladimír Čunát | I'm not fond of making nixos-unstable dependent on darwin builds. | 11:56:45 |
 emily | regardless of success/fail blocking, because of the infra capacity problems? I know there's been issues with -next recently, has it held back nixpkgs-unstable bumps though? | 11:58:04 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I could certainly come with some scenarios, e.g. some security rebuilds do get way more expensive for darwin than linux. | 11:58:06 |
| emily | those should be conditionalized anyway right? | 11:58:35 |
| emily | because nixpkgs-unstable is used on Linux too | 11:58:42 |
| emily | e.g. by all users on other distros by default | 11:58:50 |
| emily | so status quo doesn't change there | 11:59:06 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Flakes also default to nixpkgs-unstable, IIRC. | 11:59:17 |
| emily | yeah, and the channel in the installers I believe | 11:59:36 |
| Vladimír Čunát | But users can easily override this. Verification of blocker NixOS tests does have benefits. | 12:09:30 |
| emily | right. well I was thinking nixpkgs-unstable should probably just gate on those too | 12:19:58 |
| emily | I don't see much reason not to since they get fixed reasonably promptly for obvious reasons | 12:20:20 |
| Vladimír Čunát | So no difference between nixos-unstable and nixpkgs-unstable then? | 12:25:27 |
| Vladimír Čunát | (same for the stable pair which is differently split, confusingly) | 12:25:57 |
| Vladimír Čunát | There's some risk from this jobset getting significantly bigger than either. As it is now, performing an eval can stall progress of builds for about 20 minutes, apparently because of dependencies between postgresql transactions. (doing an eval as one huge transaction is tough) | 12:32:30 |
| Vladimír Čunát | But maybe the reduction in overall job count (summed together over jobsets) would even help this aspect. | 12:33:21 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * There's some risk from the merged jobset getting significantly bigger than either. As it is now, performing an eval can stall progress of builds for about 20 minutes, apparently because of dependencies between postgresql transactions. (doing an eval as one huge transaction is tough) | 12:33:43 |
| emily | well, latter would block on Darwin as now | 12:35:12 |
| emily | but right, no difference for Linux specifically | 12:35:26 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Looks good: https://hydra.nixos.org/build/325215479#tabs-constituents | 13:15:41 |
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