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3 Jun 2025
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianOkay but Fastly's20:21:20
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian * 20:21:32
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianthat’s why I started this. Our logs are consistent with that20:21:50
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian enough digging for today :D 20:23:36
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)

infinisil, i poked around a bit and figured out how to get our mailserver to both store and forward email. so we don't need to do a sudden switch for foundation@, you can keep the mailing list for a bit while you transition to freescout.

could you take a look at https://github.com/NixOS/infra/pull/715 and if it looks good, generate loginAccount for foundation@nixos.org? (nix run .#encrypt-email login -- --help should tell you what to do)

20:41:04
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)https://github.com/NixOS/infra/pull/705 builds upon that PR and adds freescout itself20:42:42
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @jfly:matrix.org

infinisil, i poked around a bit and figured out how to get our mailserver to both store and forward email. so we don't need to do a sudden switch for foundation@, you can keep the mailing list for a bit while you transition to freescout.

could you take a look at https://github.com/NixOS/infra/pull/715 and if it looks good, generate loginAccount for foundation@nixos.org? (nix run .#encrypt-email login -- --help should tell you what to do)

Nice! I'll PR that against your branch :D
21:01:43
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) https://github.com/jfly/infra/pull/1 21:16:42
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAlso taking a quick look at the PR now21:17:11
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) I don't get how storeEmail works. The only place using it is the secrets configuration 21:21:46
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)here's a demonstration of the effect21:22:26
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)

before:

[root@umbriel:~]# grep jfly /etc/postfix/virtual-mailing-lists
jfly-hacking@nixos.org me@playground.jflei.com
21:22:35
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)

after:

[root@umbriel:~]# grep jfly /etc/postfix/virtual-mailing-lists
jfly-hacking@nixos.org jfly-hacking@nixos.org, me@playground.jflei.com
21:22:44
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly) you're correct that this only affects secrets, because /etc/postfix/virtual-mailing-lists is a sops templated secret 21:24:14
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly) * you're correct that this only affects secrets, because /etc/postfix/virtual-mailing-lists is a sops-templated secret 21:24:24
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly) *

with storeEmail = false;:

[root@umbriel:~]# grep jfly /etc/postfix/virtual-mailing-lists
jfly-hacking@nixos.org me@playground.jflei.com
21:24:46
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAh I see21:24:53
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly) *

with storeEmail = true;:

[root@umbriel:~]# grep jfly /etc/postfix/virtual-mailing-lists
jfly-hacking@nixos.org jfly-hacking@nixos.org, me@playground.jflei.com
21:24:54
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilSo it "forwards" it to the actual email21:25:09
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)yeah, kind of funny looking. but that's exactly how my brain reads it21:25:35
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilMakes sense!21:26:02
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)i've incorporated your change and removed the jfly-hacking@ temp address21:26:17
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)i'm going to deploy now. could you update freescout's config accordingly?21:26:27
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)and probably also change your freescout password so i no longer have access21:26:38
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilYup :D21:26:52
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)

deployed!

before:

[root@umbriel:~]# grep '^foundation' /etc/postfix/virtual-mailing-lists
foundation@nixos.org [... redacted ...]

after:

[root@umbriel:~]# grep '^foundation' /etc/postfix/virtual-mailing-lists
foundation@nixos.org foundation@nixos.org, [... redacted ...]
21:29:35
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilNice! I'll set it up with my email client and see if it works as we get emails21:30:12
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)awesome. i'm going to be somewhat MIA for the next ~2 weeks. hopefully things are in an OK state for you.21:31:27
@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly)i know we need backups, and i know we'll need changes to freescout nix flake to support paid modules. hopefully neither of those are blockers21:32:02
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilNah, this is great for a start21:32:46

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