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24 May 2025
@uep:matrix.orguepit's not logging any of these in the admin channel, perhaps in the process log though?04:27:09
@uep:matrix.orguep(is there a way i can get a look at that log?)06:19:53
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahi, looking08:26:42
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May 24 04:03:39 caliban mjolnir[2415]: Sat, 24 May 2025 04:03:39 GMT [INFO] [AutomaticRedactionQueue] Redacting event because the user is listed as bad: https://matrix.to/#/!RROtHmAaQIkiJzJZZE:nixos.org/$AqUhO1juSZFz5RTWyjdQAEdULUYPL0KSJnJ6MZ-h3PE

08:27:59
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa uep: I did send you the logs of the last 24 hours by DM 08:28:35
@uep:matrix.orguepthanks.. yeah, that suggests there some new internal "naughty stool" state that didn't exist or wasn't triggered before.08:46:18
@uep:matrix.orguepAdd users who activate mention spam protection to auto-redact list by @H-Shay in #54108:55:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathat's so nice.08:57:49
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaat some point it's probably cheaper to just put in the effort and migrate to draupnir08:58:26
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://github.com/matrix-org/mjolnir/blob/6deb04fdc05f258d61765af518e48ae5fc8caead/test/integration/commands/UnbanBanTest.ts#L132-L15408:59:15
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa unbanning could work 08:59:37
@uep:matrix.orguepi tried a few things, not sure if i tried that because I asked what rules matched his username and it said none. At the time I was checking in case he's been listed elsewhere for whatever reason09:00:48
@hexa:lossy.networkhexayeah, I didn't see any listing on our lists nor on CME09:01:21
@uep:matrix.orguepi can't see whether it's saved state or cleared on restart; mjolnir is mostly stateless09:01:26
@hexa:lossy.networkhexait is not09:01:32
@hexa:lossy.networkhexait stores its state in its matrix account09:01:38
@k900:0upti.meK900Unbanning does work09:01:49
@uep:matrix.orguepso i expect the restart has probably cleared it and we won't know09:01:50
@k900:0upti.meK900 You have to !mjolnir unban @mx:id true 09:01:58
@k900:0upti.meK900 The true is what removes from the redact list 09:02:10
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaI hate that they did htat09:02:17
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa* I hate that they did it like that09:02:21
@uep:matrix.orguepuntil it happens again. I can increase the threshold a little more, because we get false positives for things like code blocks with @@ patch lines09:02:30
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaultimately we cannot automate protections against everything09:02:57
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaif at least the imagery is gone that is the big step09:03:18
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand I still wish that was a per room setting09:03:37
@uep:matrix.orguep no. but the mentions spam protection is especially disappointing because the match is so dumb (it will literally fire on N consecutive @'s) and the spammers actually do spam mentions and so it's a good trigger 09:04:06
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://the-draupnir-project.github.io/draupnir-documentation/protections/mention-limit-protection09:05:38
@hexa:lossy.networkhexareads a bit more nuanced09:06:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexabut surely not a silver bullet09:06:39

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