| 25 Mar 2025 |
 emily | I doubt we have ten well-maintained DEs in the tree | 21:14:42 |
| emily | In reply to @sigmasquadron:matrix.org
Does any other distro ship both desktops as usable sessions in their live ISOs? many ship them as separate ISOs | 21:14:51 |
| emily | we combined them for cache size reasons just days ago | 21:14:58 |
| emily | it is a small change for Plasma users but a big one for GNOME | 21:15:38 |
 SigmaSquadron | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
we combined them for cache size reasons just days ago Am aware, and I thought that was impressive since nobody else does that, as far as I know. | 21:15:40 |
| emily | right | 21:15:51 |
| emily | I don't know how many of them want to. most of them don't have a $15k/month S3 bill | 21:16:13 |
| SigmaSquadron | Fedora Everything built as an offline image is probably the closest thing, but despite literally everything being in the ISO, it's not actually a usable live desktop. | 21:16:27 |
| emily | is that the entire package repo? how big is that? | 21:17:24 |
| SigmaSquadron | last i tried to do that was in Fedora 13 and it was about 21 GiB | 21:17:53 |
| 26 Mar 2025 |
 Mic92 | They shouldn't be added to the cache in the first place | 08:47:06 |
| Mic92 | https://github.com/nixos/images is already reserved for this. | 08:47:33 |
 Arian | Something I and Mic wanted to work on... But we can only clone ourselves that often before the DNA deteriorates | 08:55:59 |
| Arian | I did have a realisation that running the image build in emulated QEMU is probably fine. As the runInLinuxVm part is only very short. So we can realistically move the builds to GitHub actions runners. | 08:57:34 |
| Arian | (before I thought we were blocked on the fact that GitHub doesn't support nested virtualization on ARM. But I don't think this is a problem in practise) | 08:58:02 |
 aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
we combined them for cache size reasons just days ago Not strictly related to this topic, but can we package the latest kernel together for unstable ISO? Some people need the latest kernel for some reasons, such as having newly released devices | 09:18:43 |
 K900 | We do have that option in the combined ISOs now I think? | 09:22:41 |
| K900 | Or did we drop it | 09:22:45 |
| K900 | @ElvishJerricco do you remember? | 09:22:55 |
 ElvishJerricco | no that's in there | 09:24:13 |
| ElvishJerricco | minimal and graphical ISOs now have latest kernel specialisations in the boot menu | 09:24:30 |
| ElvishJerricco | I... I don't know what to make of "chart_with_upward_trend" :P | 09:27:53 |
| aleksana 🏳️⚧️ (force me to bed after 18:00 UTC) | 👊❄🔥 | 09:28:49 |
 Vladimír Čunát | Graph of the ISO size 😉 | 09:28:50 |
 @emma:rory.gay | dont we already have a graph of that? lol | 09:29:12 |
| ElvishJerricco | yea, it was a tradeoff. We now don't build the two new_kernel ISOs at all, so in terms of cache size it's a saving | 09:29:36 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Don't get me wrong. I believe that this combining is a huge improvement. | 09:29:55 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Jumped one-time with FORCE=1 also for nixos-unstable. Now it should all just work by itself. | 10:36:10 |
 Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | In reply to @arianvp:matrix.org
Something I and Mic wanted to work on... But we can only clone ourselves that often before the DNA deteriorates Are you looking for help with this? | 13:59:13 |
| Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | * Arian: are you looking for help with this? | 14:03:25 |
