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11 Feb 2025
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathis was a busy time before year's end and the focus was on getting things running without any downtime23:52:46
@hexa:lossy.networkhexain fact I took care of that alone 🤷‍♂️23:52:56
@hexa:lossy.networkhexait is indeed currently a mixed lix on the linux builders, nix on the evaluator, nix on the macs setup23:55:08
@hexa:lossy.networkhexacollecting that data still requires someone on the other end to evaluate it23:56:38
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand I don't think yet another s3 bucket particularly helps, given that we can't seem to be able to deal with the ones we have23:57:46
12 Feb 2025
@hexa:lossy.networkhexafinally: I'm not married to that decision or any particular implementation of Nixlang and would like to keep being able to switch things around as needed. There was and is no intent to offend either projects.00:03:03
@hexa:lossy.networkhexasorry if this seems like snark, but I really feel like we're not taking the spending problem with AWS too seriously00:04:03
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand I personally lack the skills to deal with that, so kudos to whoever can and will00:04:21
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@arianvp:matrix.orgArianNo offense taken. We have it set up that the bucket deletes files older than a month at work. It was mostly just an example. We might not even need to ship the coredumps anywhere. The Hetzner builder machines are long lived as opposed to ephemeral on equinix right? so coredumps should collect in /var/lib/coredumps and the systemd journal anyway 00:09:51
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinteryeah, they are long lived00:11:24
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand they do00:11:59
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathe latest coredump is from 2025-01-2800:12:04
@hexa:lossy.networkhexabut from a build00:12:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa

e.g.

Mon 2025-02-10 07:57:05 UTC  803285 30011 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/source/engine/scheduler_test                                                                                                                           103.8K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:57:19 UTC  813957 30011 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/kyua.fl9Qv2/831/work/kyua.jJYYUN/1/work/short                                                                                                           44.4K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:57:20 UTC  814050 30011 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/kyua.fl9Qv2/832/work/kyua.s17nJ8/1/work/short                                                                                                           44.4K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:57:20 UTC  814181 30011 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/kyua.fl9Qv2/833/work/kyua.22SV6O/1/work/short                                                                                                           44.4K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:57:20 UTC  814379 30011 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/kyua.fl9Qv2/834/work/kyua.J8qa47/1/work/short                                                                                                           44.5K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:57:27 UTC  819457 30011 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/kyua.fl9Qv2/843/work/stacktrace_helper                                                                                                                    45K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:57:37 UTC  821712 30011 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/source/utils/process/isolation_test                                                                                                                     97.3K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:57:38 UTC  821829 30011 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/source/utils/process/operations_test                                                                                                                    95.9K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:57:38 UTC  821855 30011 30000 SIGQUIT present  /build/source/utils/process/status_test                                                                                                                        94.8K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:58:29 UTC  847236 30001 30000 SIGQUIT present  /build/source/atf-c/detail/.libs/lt-process_test                                                                                                                 30K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:58:37 UTC  853660 30001 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/source/test-programs/.libs/lt-cpp_helpers                                                                                                               56.2K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:58:37 UTC  854156 30001 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/source/test-programs/.libs/lt-c_helpers                                                                                                                 26.5K
Mon 2025-02-10 07:58:37 UTC  854254 30001 30000 SIGABRT present  /build/source/test-programs/.libs/lt-cpp_helpers                                                                                                               56.7K
00:12:49
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianYeh I guess these are dumps from OOM kills or the likes. 00:13:41
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusnot necessarily00:14:06
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariustesting phase of programs built may trigger SIGABRT on purpose ;-)00:14:18
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
(gdb) bt full
#0  0x00007ffff7a4c16c in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x00000000004273b0 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x3693e7cdb4796900 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x0000000000000006 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#4  0x00007ffff79b1b80 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x00007fffffffd8c0 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
00:15:07
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianAh lol yeh00:15:07
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa🙂 00:15:08
@hexa:lossy.networkhexabut why do those leak into the host, while most other crashes do not?00:15:58
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
     11 2024-12-24
    125 2025-01-24
    182 2025-01-25
     93 2025-01-26
    713 2025-01-27
    275 2025-01-28
     67 2025-01-29
    400 2025-01-30
    185 2025-01-31
    140 2025-02-01
     63 2025-02-02
     92 2025-02-03
     68 2025-02-04
    777 2025-02-05
   1173 2025-02-06
    429 2025-02-07
     16 2025-02-08
    255 2025-02-09
    724 2025-02-10
   1415 2025-02-11
00:16:43
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathe number of crashes we see per day00:17:02
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa* the number of crashes we see per day on a single builder00:17:08
@hexa:lossy.networkhexamost have no corefile00:17:17
@9lore:tchncs.de@9lore:tchncs.deHi, just curious https://hydra.nixos.org/build/288757617 is this stuck? Will it timeout at some point?00:17:50
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI guess filtering to just the ones we're comm=nix-daemon makes sense 00:17:52
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
but why do those leak into the host, while most other crashes do not?
cgroups setup
00:18:07
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(or I misunderstood your remark)00:18:21

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