| 3 Sep 2021 |
 Domen Kožar | hmm | 15:11:42 |
| Domen Kožar | well if you come up with one that would help, I really think this would give us a huge boost | 15:12:00 |
| Domen Kožar | maybe just crowdfund it | 15:12:14 |
| Domen Kožar | savings are enormous, 100MB should compress in like 20s instead of 12min | 15:14:45 |
 @grahamc:nixos.org | I think it is a bit quick to jump to saying it is compression, but there is definitely a lot of benefit from moving cache uploads from central machine to the builder | 15:18:36 |
| Domen Kožar | it's I/O + compression | 15:19:03 |
| Domen Kožar | not sure what else it would be, the job was stuck in "receiving outputs" for 12min, that should otherwise be independent of hydra | 15:19:46 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | well ... I wouldn't jump to that, personally, so soon -- but perhaps so :) | 15:20:14 |
| Domen Kožar | I reserve the right to be wrong! | 15:25:34 |
| Domen Kožar | about bootstrapping a business .. yeah 3 years in it's still hard :D | 15:35:55 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | hey 3 years is supposed to be that magic number of "if you made it this long you've probably got something" | 15:36:50 |
 Vladimír Čunát | some debt at least | 15:38:17 |
| Domen Kožar | :D | 15:40:45 |
| Domen Kožar | I mean given how crazy the dev market is these days it's a huge opportunity cost | 15:41:04 |
| Domen Kožar | but I'm lucky to be a cheap fuck so whatever, I prefer to improve Nix :) | 15:41:30 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | yeah, I could make way more money if I went and got a regular job | 15:42:12 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | lol | 15:42:14 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | and have way less stress | 15:42:19 |
| Domen Kožar | especially at the moment, everyone is hiring | 15:44:57 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | maybe I should go find a real job ... | 15:48:30 |
| Domen Kožar | nah | 15:52:12 |
| Domen Kožar | we need more businesses in Nix pushing things forward :) | 15:53:30 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | yeah :) I think this thing will work out okay | 15:54:03 |
| Vladimír Čunát | In reply to @grahamc:nixos.org
that can happen if Equinix is takingor replacing spot instances, between the moments of our automationrefreshing keys and builders Seems to happen quite often: https://hydra.nixos.org/build/151898830#tabs-buildsteps | 16:54:05 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | sometimes they do a lot of shuffling around on their spot market | 16:54:51 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Too bad for builds that take many hours. | 16:55:06 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | well, I'm not sure those are related | 16:55:16 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | the ones I'm referring to are the no host / ssh host key change errors | 16:55:50 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Ah, OK, I meant the end-of-file abortions. | 16:56:12 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | of course it is possible those end-of-file are coming from a machine that was taken away from us | 16:56:13 |
