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7 Jun 2025
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hexa (signing key rotation when): Recently the foundation board got a request to "unban" somebody's IP, they also linked to a post of them about it: https://sharkey.ghodawalaaman.xyz/notes/a8bh6usmk8

Is this something the infra team can look into? I can PM you the IP address

21:59:57
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧pinging 52.74.232.59 also results in 100% packet loss for me22:09:25
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)
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hexa (signing key rotation when): Recently the foundation board got a request to "unban" somebody's IP, they also linked to a post of them about it: https://sharkey.ghodawalaaman.xyz/notes/a8bh6usmk8

Is this something the infra team can look into? I can PM you the IP address

Thats hosted by netlify and I would be surprised if anyone was "banned"
22:17:56
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)
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pinging 52.74.232.59 also results in 100% packet loss for me
"Security"
22:18:18
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilOh and yeah I also get full packet loss for nixos.org pings22:18:24
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI guess there's no reason for it to respond to pings22:18:32
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefit might just not answer pings22:18:38
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)Thats not a problem22:18:40
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefyeah22:18:41
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAlright I'll answer with that. Can also tell them to join this room if there's other problems22:19:01
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil(although if they're actually blocked in some way they might not be able to :P)22:19:17
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefa lot of networking equipment also doesn't answer pings or punts them to low priority22:19:23
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefso ICMP pings are not inherently reliable tests of connectivity or latency22:19:47
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)
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(although if they're actually blocked in some way they might not be able to :P)
Unlikely
22:20:22
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef(and i can confirm that nixos.org indeed does not answer ICMP pings, but does answer HTTPS)22:20:44
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)Relevant would he a traceroute (UDP or TCP) and a curl log22:21:08
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when) * 22:21:16
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧My providers routers drop exactly 50% of a normal mtr ping at hop 4 or 5 22:43:00
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧not 49.5, not 51.3, exactly 50.0%22:43:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)its because icmp echo requests leave the fast path and go to the control plane22:43:24
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)the control plane is not equipped to handle a huge number of packages, so rate limiting kicks in22:43:47
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧"sEcUrItY" aka make debugging hard for no reason :P or maybe they run Windows Server where you can sometimes get RCE with IPv6 pings 😂22:43:50
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)exactly22:43:55
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)* the control plane is not equipped to handle a huge number of packets, so rate limiting kicks in22:44:37
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧luckily you cannot turn it off for IPv6 completely without breaking some things22:44:59
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa (signing key rotation when)you absoutely can turn off icmpv6 echo requests22:45:17

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