| 18 Aug 2021 |
 andi- | Was staging merged? | 22:51:05 |
 sterni | yes, it probably just has to instanitate everything and realize it is already cached? | 22:57:55 |
| sterni | yeah half already done | 22:58:42 |
| 21 Aug 2021 |
 lukegb (he/him) | update-nixos-unstable.service is wedged again | 20:08:25 |
| lukegb (he/him) | https://p.lukegb.com/raw/EvidentlyGlowingBurro.png | 20:09:13 |
| sterni changed their display name from sterni (he/him) to sterni[m]. | 22:21:31 |
| sterni changed their display name from sterni[m] to sterni. | 22:21:48 |
| 22 Aug 2021 |
| lukegb (he/him) | Still stuck :) | 10:04:30 |
| 23 Aug 2021 |
|  Pascal Bach joined the room. | 13:14:36 |
| andi- | Would it make sense to pipe those prometheus alerts into this channel via alertmanager+any of the matrix bots? | 13:17:08 |
 Vladimír Čunát | We're mainly missing the logs. Historically I think these errors can often be fixed just by pushing into nixpkgs, but without the logs we have no idea what's wrong. | 13:18:28 |
 Sandro | Why do we have nix store links in the docs? https://search.nixos.org/options?channel=unstable&show=boot.tmpOnTmpfs&from=0&size=50&sort=relevance&query=tmp | 15:17:08 |
| andi- | https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-search/issues/335 | 15:22:55 |
|  collares joined the room. | 19:03:03 |
 hexa | In reply to @lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninja
update-nixos-unstable.service is wedged again How long do we wait before we explicltly mention people? | 20:39:38 |
| hexa | In reply to @lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninja
update-nixos-unstable.service is wedged again * How long do we wait before we start explicltly mentioning people? | 20:39:46 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I think we can start mentioning slowly: Amine Chikhaoui (has necessary access IIRC) | 20:53:17 |
| hexa | basically everyone on here? https://nixos.org/community/teams/infrastructure.html | 20:59:34 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Yes, that list might (still) be close to reality. | 21:10:38 |
| Vladimír Čunát | In reply to @andi:kack.it
build flags: -j2 -l2
Since when are our builders running just two cores per build? Not an issue just surprised to see this.
Actually, I wonder what kind of separation is there. I'd expect load to be shared (e.g. no VM-level separation), so load 2 is rather easy to get and you'll mostly run single-core. | 21:49:17 |
| Vladimír Čunát | In reply to @andi:kack.it
build flags: -j2 -l2
Since when are our builders running just two cores per build? Not an issue just surprised to see this.
* Actually, I wonder what kind of separation is there. I'd expect load to be shared (e.g. no VM-level separation), so load 2 is rather easy to get and you'll mostly run single-core.
It's the case where you'd want -l to be way higher than -j.
| 21:51:02 |
|  princemachiavelli joined the room. | 22:34:18 |
| princemachiavelli | Looks like /scratch is full on bastion. https://monitoring.nixos.org/prometheus/graph?g0.expr=node_filesystem_avail_bytes%7Bmountpoint%3D%22%2Fscratch%22%7D&g0.tab=0&g0.stacked=0&g0.range_input=2w | 22:35:08 |
| lukegb (he/him) | filed https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/135484 and mentioned the infra github team | 23:22:57 |
| 24 Aug 2021 |
 @grahamc:nixos.org | m'onit | 00:59:58 |
| andi- | In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
Actually, I wonder what kind of separation is there. I'd expect load to be shared (e.g. no VM-level separation), so load 2 is rather easy to get and you'll mostly run single-core.
It's the case where you'd want -l to be way higher than -j.
Valid point. I wasn't thinking about that case. Perhaps worth seeing if the kernel can expose load per process namespace? | 09:46:33 |
| Vladimír Čunát | In reply to @andi:kack.it
Valid point. I wasn't thinking about that case. Perhaps worth seeing if the kernel can expose load per process namespace? And then we patch all the build systems? I'm more hopeful for a job-server... or us separating -l from -j. | 09:49:36 |
| andi- | No, I would patch the way the nix sandbox works. | 09:50:43 |
| andi- | e.g. if you don't run enough work for two cores your load should not be >=2 | 09:51:04 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I didn't think that linux namespaces allow modifying the load, but perhaps... I haven't given it much time. | 11:25:32 |
