| 23 Feb 2025 |
 emily | I can't think of any circumstances in which someone installing a 25.05 Plasma 5 machine without an existing config would be a great idea we'd want to recommend. | 16:25:31 |
 K900 | True | 16:25:47 |
| K900 | https://github.com/NixOS/calamares-nixos-extensions/pull/52 | 16:29:42 |
| K900 | Yeet proposed | 16:29:44 |
| emily | lgtm. I think ElvishJerricco can merge | 16:31:24 |
| emily | I'm shocked my "put GNOME and Plasma on the same ISO" idea worked so well | 16:31:43 |
| emily | there's definitely some stuff we can trim to make the size growth over the previous GNOME ISO not as bad, but I really thought we'd be in for a ~doubling | 16:32:01 |
| emily | I think we're going to be the only distro offering that :) | 16:32:14 |
 ElvishJerricco | I will take a look at the context of this conversation in a little bit. But yea the PR seems good to merge for obvious reasons | 16:44:53 |
| ElvishJerricco | (This is rather admitting; changes we want to make to the graphical installer have to go through an entire release; really wish it were in-tree) | 16:48:54 |
| ElvishJerricco | * (This is rather annoying; changes we want to make to the graphical installer have to go through an entire release; really wish it were in-tree) | 16:49:08 |
| K900 | Maybe we should just yoink it into-tree | 16:49:57 |
| ElvishJerricco | That'd be nice | 16:50:06 |
| emily | my only nitpick was that I don't like "Linux <exactversion>" and "Linux LTS" | 16:52:20 |
| emily | I'd prefer "Linux latest" and "Linux LTS" | 16:52:20 |
| emily | the kernel won't be pinned to <exactversion> on install, and users generally won't know if the <exactversion> is older or newer than LTS | 16:52:38 |
 hexa | It won't be pinned, but showing the exact version number early makes sense | 16:55:08 |
| hexa | when you know the version bounds for certain features or hw support | 16:55:33 |
| ElvishJerricco | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I'd prefer "Linux latest" and "Linux LTS" I just really dislike "latest" when when there's no guarantee it's literally the latest kernel | 16:57:18 |
| ElvishJerricco | I'd rather put the exact version on each boot entry, but that caused the LTS entry to extend outside the grub menu's UI boundary | 16:58:15 |
| ElvishJerricco | I have an idea to fix that but it's more of a pain in the ass. Each entry includes the NixOS version and revision. That could be in a label common to all entries. That would free up space. | 16:59:46 |
| emily | it's linuxPackages_latest | 17:00:31 |
| emily | if "latest" is a problem we should rename that | 17:00:31 |
| emily | in that case we should say "Linux <exact version> LTS" too, probably | 17:00:32 |
| ElvishJerricco | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
it's linuxPackages_latest But in the boot menu it's not | 17:00:54 |
| K900 | I do think that seeing the kernel version is good | 17:01:26 |
| hexa | it's okay to just do the right thing without mentioning it in the boot loader | 17:01:33 |
| ElvishJerricco | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
in that case we should say "Linux <exact version> LTS" too, probably Like I said, there's other factors that make this annoying but preferable | 17:01:37 |
| K900 | Because like, let's say I burn an ISO and then leave it in the drawer for two months | 17:01:39 |
| K900 | What's the "latest" kernel? | 17:01:42 |
