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16 Oct 2025
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius<confusion intensifies>12:04:02
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatAh, I misread that. OK.12:04:20
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatIt does happen commonly on Hydra that we build the same-hashed derivation twice in parallel.12:06:02
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat* It does happen commonly on Hydra that we build the same-hashed derivation twice in parallel (and both succeed).12:06:09
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatI'm not sure what exactly happens in that case. But even so.12:06:26
@brian:bmcgee.ieBMGwhich would account for same nar but multiple narinfos?12:06:29
@brian:bmcgee.ieBMGassuming the build output was bit-wise reproducible12:06:48
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatThey often are not, but I'm not sure that really affects the count of re-uploads.12:07:23
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatIt doesn't affect the (S3/URL) paths.12:07:39
@brian:bmcgee.ieBMGHappy to jump on a call a bit later and poke through this dataset together 12:15:23
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@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92
In reply to @brian:bmcgee.ie
But wouldn't that mean more nars than narinfos?
You can end up with more narinfos if you produce the very same build-output.
15:13:26
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Ah vcunat said this already 15:13:48
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforeveri am pretty sure this is wrong15:14:38
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforevernarinfo is per path, nar is whatever15:14:44
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforeverso you'll have one narinfo per output15:15:15
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforeverprotocol-wise the nars doesn't matter, you just need to point the URL in narinfo to something15:16:15
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforeveri think it just happens that nix defaults to using a hash of the nar contents15:16:29
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforeveror something like that15:16:33
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforeveri wonder if we have a bunch of test derivations that just create an empty file at $out and that's why we have way more narinfo than nar15:17:37
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@jfly:matrix.orgJeremy Fleischman (jfly) Sorry, travelling today 16:26:54
17 Oct 2025
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonnow that Hydra repo has been upgraded to a fewer Nixes, should we re-deploy?15:50:05
18 Oct 2025
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