| 16 Oct 2025 |
 BMG | Confirmed, 0 results when looking for keys ending in .nar | 11:45:36 |
 vcunat | Lower bound would be more like: full rebuild (hundreds of thousands jobs) every three weeks, very roughly. | 11:46:04 |
| vcunat | * Lower bound would be more like: full rebuild (hundreds of thousands jobs) every three weeks, very roughly. At least that's how I would think about it. | 11:46:17 |
| vcunat | * Lower bound would be more like: full rebuild (hundreds of thousands jobs) every two weeks, very roughly. At least that's how I would think about it. | 11:46:48 |
| BMG | 
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| BMG | This is the monthly rollup for .narinfo | 11:47:34 |
| BMG | 
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| BMG | This is the monthly rollup for %.nar.% | 11:48:40 |
| BMG | I'm gonna say something naive: shouldn't there be the same number of nars as narinfos? | 11:49:20 |
 raitobezarius | i was going to call this out | 11:49:31 |
| raitobezarius | i'm confused why #narinfo >>> #nars | 11:49:40 |
| raitobezarius | but perhaps, nar uploads are averted | 11:49:49 |
| BMG | Looks like about 500k or so more narinfos a month than nars | 11:49:52 |
| raitobezarius | and narinfos are rewritten no matter what | 11:49:53 |
| BMG | Now I know the upload process is "messy" | 11:50:01 |
| raitobezarius | :"D | 11:50:06 |
| BMG | Less messy, more very simple. Not atomic. You can have a nar without a narinfo or vice versa because they are uploaded independently | 11:50:48 |
| BMG | These numbers would seem to indicate something is not quite right with the upload process. | 11:51:09 |
| BMG | I'm spending my afternoons on this stuff at the min. I'm gonna grab some lunch and dig into this properly. Need to brush up on my clickhouse skills a bit. | 11:51:58 |
| BMG | Might be faster to just finish the postgres import process and poke around it there, cos I'll have parsed the narinfos and have the references etc and be able to relate the nar entries to the nar infos | 11:53:20 |
| BMG | 🤔 | 11:53:30 |
| vcunat | narinfo is per derivation. nar is per derivation output. Am I wrong? | 12:01:57 |
| BMG | 🤔 | 12:02:09 |
| vcunat | We do use multi-output derivations pretty commonly, at least in the more-core packages. | 12:02:26 |
| BMG | That would make sense | 12:02:44 |
| BMG | But woudl that mean more nars than narinfos? | 12:03:17 |
| BMG | * But wouldn't that mean more nars than narinfos? | 12:03:25 |
 hexa (signing key rotation when) | yes | 12:03:31 |
| BMG | We're seeing the opposite | 12:03:45 |
| BMG | If my clickhouse skills are to be believed | 12:03:51 |
