| 4 Sep 2021 |
 Domen Kožar | nixpkgs-unstable is stuck for 6 days regardless of the builds passing | 09:03:22 |
 Vladimír Čunát | It had lots of unfinished jobs. | 09:22:09 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Even five days old evals still have unfinished jobs now. | 09:23:45 |
| Vladimír Čunát | x86_64-darwin is still overloaded, due to the openssl update about a week ago (causing stdenv rebuild in there unfortunately). | 09:24:23 |
 sterni | maybe time to make a separate nixpkgs-unstable-darwin channel as well? | 09:36:07 |
 andi- | In reply to @sternenseemann:systemli.org
maybe time to make a separate nixpkgs-unstable-darwin channel as well? That would acutally also reflect the platform maturity as defined in our platform tiers RFC. (Problems on these platforms can block updates for as long as necessary to resolve the issue. is a Tier 1 privilege but it is pretty clear we are not in a situation to support it as Tier 1..) | 13:12:39 |
 @grahamc:nixos.org | yar we've got some macs to add to the farm, I've gotten some of them ready for that but haven't finished yet | 14:04:28 |
| Domen Kožar | yeah, macstadium donated us 5 macos machines :) | 16:10:03 |
| andi- | Do we have some sort of device management for those yet? I have to operate one of those as my work device and I'm hating the mutability of the whole thing already. | 16:47:26 |
 Alyssa Ross | don't we run NixOS on them with macOS in a VM? | 16:48:05 |
| andi- | At least on the M1s we couldn't/can't do that yet. I never used MacStadium. Is that like AWS for Macs? You give them an image and they boot it? | 16:50:45 |
| Alyssa Ross | ah right | 16:54:14 |
| sterni | wasn't it that apple doesn't like using vms? | 16:57:08 |
 Jonas Chevalier | 
Download image.png | 21:02:24 |
| Jonas Chevalier | that's from the macStadium website | 21:02:41 |
| Jonas Chevalier | they also have a vsphere offering with VMs but I don't think it works for M1s | 21:03:37 |
| Jonas Chevalier | I really like this picture for some reason. It looks so silly, and professional at the same time. | 21:04:18 |
| sterni | I wonder if the apple logo is a sticker… | 21:05:35 |
| sterni | probably they put it on there for the photo? | 21:05:44 |
| Jonas Chevalier | yeah good catch. the imacs don't have this on the back isn't it? | 21:12:11 |
| 5 Sep 2021 |
 baloo | some older gen have | 00:21:19 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | I'm pretty sure that is just the plastic protecting the apple logo for shipping | 01:16:14 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | for macstadium they're real mac machines running macos directly on the host, and we can't VM-ify it because we can't press the buttons we need to to do so | 01:16:43 |
 toonn | Is the number of Mac builders tracked anywhere? Closest I've gotten is this grafana, https://monitoring.nixos.org/grafana/d/D85NHP2Zz/jobs-per-machine?viewPanel=2&orgId=1&refresh=30s | 09:30:26 |
| toonn | But that only lists 1 M1 mini so that doesn't seem correct. (I'm assuming all the packet machines run linux.) | 09:30:56 |
 lukegb (he/him) | It's dropping some of the lines | 10:07:39 |
| lukegb (he/him) | https://monitoring.nixos.org/prometheus/graph?g0.expr=hydra_machine_current_jobs%7Bhost%3D~%22.mac-m1.%22%7D&g0.tab=0&g0.stacked=0&g0.range_input=2h | 10:08:14 |
| lukegb (he/him) | https://hydra.nixos.org/machines is probably your best bet, though | 10:14:03 |
| Vladimír Čunát | https://hydra.nixos.org/queue-runner-status is better for this, I believe. | 10:24:40 |
| toonn | Ok, thanks. I guess the MacStadium builders haven't been added to Hydra yet then? | 10:28:18 |
