| 23 Feb 2025 |
emily | if "latest" is a problem we should rename that | 17:00:31 |
emily | in that case we should say "Linux <exact version> LTS" too, probably | 17:00:32 |
ElvishJerricco | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org it's linuxPackages_latest But in the boot menu it's not | 17:00:54 |
K900 | I do think that seeing the kernel version is good | 17:01:26 |
hexa | it's okay to just do the right thing without mentioning it in the boot loader | 17:01:33 |
ElvishJerricco | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org in that case we should say "Linux <exact version> LTS" too, probably Like I said, there's other factors that make this annoying but preferable | 17:01:37 |
K900 | Because like, let's say I burn an ISO and then leave it in the drawer for two months | 17:01:39 |
K900 | What's the "latest" kernel? | 17:01:42 |
hexa | like if you booted up and installed from latest we're not going to surprise you | 17:01:54 |
K900 | Clearly not what's on the image | 17:01:57 |
K900 | Can we just stick the NixOS version and stuff into the header? | 17:02:22 |
K900 | There is customizable text in the header | 17:02:27 |
K900 | Technically | 17:02:30 |
ElvishJerricco | I think this is all stuff that's been discussed before, and I feel I have to (lightly) put my foot down and say: The PR is in the state that I, the maintainer, think has considered the options and concluded the reasonable responses. I like not to bikeshed it anymore | 17:05:03 |
ElvishJerricco | if you all feel differently, I'm very open to that | 17:05:19 |
emily | I'm fine merging it as is. I do think we shouldn't ship with "Linux <randomnumbers>" and "Linux LTS" because it doesn't help users meaningfully compare them | 17:05:39 |
emily | but I don't think it's a blocker | 17:05:43 |
emily | (ship = 25.05) | 17:05:47 |
emily | FWIW I really don't think we need the rev in there at all | 17:06:06 |
ElvishJerricco | it's in there | 17:06:18 |
emily | it is what you'll get on the installed system though | 17:06:23 |
ElvishJerricco | the redundant version info includes the nixpkgs rev and the number of commits under that rev | 17:06:53 |
ElvishJerricco | which each entry gets | 17:07:03 |
emily | I think nobody who can do anything useful with the Nixpkgs commit requires it to be in the bootloader menu or really benefits from that | 17:07:19 |
ElvishJerricco | that's what I think we could de-rundundant-ize to make room for the LTS kernel's version | 17:07:23 |
ElvishJerricco | but I think that's a separate thing that I'll do in another PR | 17:07:51 |
ElvishJerricco | (because I'm less sure how to do it) | 17:08:03 |
ElvishJerricco | oh I just saw this part; oh gosh I already made the channel scripts PR https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-channel-scripts/pull/77 I was hoping that the release manager of 25.05 would have to change the homepage | 17:35:08 |
ElvishJerricco | or, stated better, I was hoping they'd be the appropriate person to change the homepage, because I don't know the right way to do that | 17:35:53 |
emily | it's not too hard | 17:38:51 |