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23 Feb 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyif "latest" is a problem we should rename that17:00:31
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyin that case we should say "Linux <exact version> LTS" too, probably17:00:32
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
it's linuxPackages_latest
But in the boot menu it's not
17:00:54
@k900:0upti.meK900I do think that seeing the kernel version is good17:01:26
@hexa:lossy.networkhexait's okay to just do the right thing without mentioning it in the boot loader17:01:33
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
in that case we should say "Linux <exact version> LTS" too, probably
Like I said, there's other factors that make this annoying but preferable
17:01:37
@k900:0upti.meK900Because like, let's say I burn an ISO and then leave it in the drawer for two months17:01:39
@k900:0upti.meK900What's the "latest" kernel?17:01:42
@hexa:lossy.networkhexalike if you booted up and installed from latest we're not going to surprise you17:01:54
@k900:0upti.meK900Clearly not what's on the image17:01:57
@k900:0upti.meK900Can we just stick the NixOS version and stuff into the header?17:02:22
@k900:0upti.meK900There is customizable text in the header17:02:27
@k900:0upti.meK900Technically17:02:30
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoI think this is all stuff that's been discussed before, and I feel I have to (lightly) put my foot down and say: The PR is in the state that I, the maintainer, think has considered the options and concluded the reasonable responses. I like not to bikeshed it anymore17:05:03
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoif you all feel differently, I'm very open to that17:05:19
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI'm fine merging it as is. I do think we shouldn't ship with "Linux <randomnumbers>" and "Linux LTS" because it doesn't help users meaningfully compare them17:05:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut I don't think it's a blocker17:05:43
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(ship = 25.05)17:05:47
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyFWIW I really don't think we need the rev in there at all17:06:06
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoit's in there17:06:18
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit is what you'll get on the installed system though17:06:23
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccothe redundant version info includes the nixpkgs rev and the number of commits under that rev17:06:53
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccowhich each entry gets17:07:03
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think nobody who can do anything useful with the Nixpkgs commit requires it to be in the bootloader menu or really benefits from that17:07:19
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccothat's what I think we could de-rundundant-ize to make room for the LTS kernel's version17:07:23
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccobut I think that's a separate thing that I'll do in another PR17:07:51
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco (because I'm less sure how to do it) 17:08:03
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccooh I just saw this part; oh gosh I already made the channel scripts PR https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-channel-scripts/pull/77 I was hoping that the release manager of 25.05 would have to change the homepage17:35:08
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoor, stated better, I was hoping they'd be the appropriate person to change the homepage, because I don't know the right way to do that17:35:53
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's not too hard17:38:51

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