| 23 Feb 2025 |
 K900 | (supposedly) | 15:44:01 |
 Vladimír Čunát | New staging-next-24.11:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/384543 | 16:00:05 |
 emily | I don't like that. that encourages new 25.05 users to consider installing a Plasma 5 system that will break next release | 16:18:24 |
| emily | if we're doing that it should at least be tucked behind a deprecated/compatibility submenu | 16:18:43 |
| K900 | I was going to update the installer | 16:18:51 |
| K900 | To say it's deprecated | 16:18:54 |
| emily | hmm. | 16:19:00 |
| K900 | Actually here's a good nudge lol | 16:19:05 |
| emily | it seems like bad UX to choose a first-class option in the menu and then get the installer telling you you shouldn't do it | 16:19:08 |
| K900 | Remove the Plasma 5 option from the live session | 16:19:13 |
| emily | what's the actual advantage of having a Plasma 5 desktop on the installer? | 16:19:15 |
| emily | or being able to make a Plasma 5 install with the graphical installer? | 16:19:25 |
| K900 | Being able to install it, mostly | 16:19:26 |
| emily | people who need to install an existing Plasma 5 configuration already have one | 16:19:35 |
| K900 | Maybe you're right | 16:19:45 |
| K900 | Maybe we just yeet it from the ISOs entirely | 16:20:04 |
| K900 | Maybe we should wait for the channels to update | 16:20:22 |
| K900 | And see how many people get hit | 16:20:25 |
| K900 | And if it's not many, we can yeet it faster | 16:20:33 |
| emily | I can imagine the downside being, someone who knows how to use Plasma 5 but not 6 and has an existing config they want to apply might struggle to use the ISO? but that feels like a stretch especially when we'll expect them to learn how to use 6 by 25.11 | 16:20:36 |
| K900 | It's not that different anyway | 16:20:48 |
| K900 | Unless you have a giga riced Plasma 5 config I guess | 16:20:54 |
| emily | "the convenient install options are all for the version we intend to support" seems like the right nudge | 16:20:56 |
| K900 | But if you have a riced Plasma 5 config you probably know Plasma 6 exists | 16:21:02 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Note: I believe that we do not offer the ISO on any official place anymore, e.g. https://channels.nixos.org/nixos-unstable/latest-nixos-plasma5-x86_64-linux.iso.sha256 | 16:21:32 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * Note: I think that we do not offer the ISO on any official place anymore, e.g. https://channels.nixos.org/nixos-unstable/latest-nixos-plasma5-x86_64-linux.iso.sha256 | 16:21:45 |
| K900 | Yeah, I removed it from channel-scripts a while ago | 16:21:50 |
| Vladimír Čunát | So you'd have to... click on the Hydra job? | 16:22:19 |
| emily | yeah I was confused since the site doesn't offer it anyway | 16:22:43 |
| emily | I don't think an upgrade from "dig through Hydra" to "offered in the default installer" is a good idea | 16:23:03 |
