| 21 Jun 2026 |
 Mic92 | only inputs | 22:36:14 |
| Mic92 | You could nix copy the derivation from mimas if you wanted | 22:36:49 |
 hexa | after copying the derivation over I can nix-build it | 22:42:02 |
| hexa | https://hydra.nixos.org/build/331755174 | 22:43:42 |
| hexa | keeps happening with other jobs | 22:43:47 |
| Mic92 | hexa (signing key rotation when): please don't copy there, than I can check what is going on in nix db | 22:47:50 |
| hexa | I only copied the one you suggested | 22:48:04 |
| hexa | Redacted or Malformed Event | 22:48:19 |
| hexa | I won't copy more, because that's not sustainable | 22:48:20 |
| hexa | that's what we have the queue-runner for after all | 22:48:36 |
| 22 Jun 2026 |
| hexa | https://hydra.nixos.org/build/331755252 stuck | 01:44:10 |
|  9lore joined the room. | 02:18:06 |
 Vladimír Čunát | I don't recall running into this kind of practical problems, though. (not seeing the error) | 03:55:25 |
| Vladimír Čunát | If you want a build for testing of "dependency failed", I'd say this is a nice one:
https://hydra.nixos.org/build/331700985 | 03:57:45 |
| Vladimír Čunát | All constituents have succeeded, but restarting the job will always fail again. | 03:58:05 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Ah, actually the last link for hexa is about the same. | 03:58:50 |
| Mic92 | @hexa:lossy.network: I think it actually requires a new eval for my change to have an effect. Testing this now. At least error messages are a lot clearer now. | 05:20:32 |
| Mic92 | https://hydra.nixos.org/eval/1826477#tabs-unfinished that's the eval that will show if it worked. | 05:37:45 |
| Mic92 | Bumped to the front so we make progress quickly | 05:38:14 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Two catches:
- it was 1-2 days, but note that starting the eval happens immediately after the merge, so that is the point where the git hash gets fixed already, even if the channel advances to it a day or two later
- the new queue runner appears to be way way faster in this respect
| 05:44:51 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Looks the same, I'm afraid. | 05:54:33 |
| Mic92 | @vcunat:matrix.org: yeah. It was able to clear out some of the previous errors. But now at least I have more recent logs to figure out why the cache is not giving us what we just build. | 05:57:31 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Thanks for working on these issues. It's not nice to block channels for too long. | 05:58:21 |
| Mic92 | Is fastly doing negative caching? | 05:58:45 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Even if it isn't, nix does it locally. | 06:03:37 |
| Mic92 | I think I disabled that already | 06:04:02 |
| Vladimír Čunát | (I'm not sure about Fastly, but I think that short negative cache is desirable there as well.) | 06:04:03 |
| Mic92 | Yeah. Worst comes to worse and we have to add the s3 bucket as a secondary substituter | 06:04:41 |
| Vladimír Čunát | http headers should releval if it's cached? | 06:05:04 |
| Mic92 | Checking now | 06:06:14 |
