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18 Jun 2026
@k900:0upti.meK900 Very likely 07:24:49
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát

.narinfo seems OK

$ curl -s https://cache.nixos.org/gypp7g48p2fcpjx952i84dhw4ak95npl.narinfo | grep NarHash
NarHash: sha256:033w5cd8z7r02h4r2p8lha6z81qqvky69a7aiahjpd15smss4wjp
07:26:26
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátThis is simplified by being a fixed-output derivation.07:27:18
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát
$ git grep 033w5cd8z7r02h4r2p8lha6z81qqvky69a7aiahjpd15smss4wjp | cat
pkgs/tools/typesetting/tex/texlive/fixed-hashes.nix:    run = "033w5cd8z7r02h4r2p8lha6z81qqvky69a7aiahjpd15smss4wjp";
07:27:37
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát *
$ git grep -B1 033w5cd8z7r02h4r2p8lha6z81qqvky69a7aiahjpd15smss4wjp | cat
pkgs/tools/typesetting/tex/texlive/fixed-hashes.nix-  lpform-36918 = {
pkgs/tools/typesetting/tex/texlive/fixed-hashes.nix:    run = "033w5cd8z7r02h4r2p8lha6z81qqvky69a7aiahjpd15smss4wjp";
07:28:32
@k900:0upti.meK900 The narinfos are uploaded from the coordinator 07:28:37
@k900:0upti.meK900 So that presumably avoids whatever confusion is going on 07:28:48
@r-burns:matrix.orgRyan BurnsThe texliveFull package itself has not changed since 6/10 afaict: https://hydra.nixos.org/build/331466803/evals So I assume that means either something has changed in the narinfo, or a server that stands between the cache and the user, or PEBCAK on my part?07:30:51
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92
In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
The situation doesn't seem sustainable to me for more than a couple days. Even -small channels get blocked because of the abortions and retrying doesn't seem to help, e.g.:
https://hydra.nixos.org/build/331658358
Could please make issue reports and ping me here on them? Scraping from matrix is a bit of messy situation
07:31:43
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Especially now that we have old and new reports in this thread 07:33:52
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92 @r-burns:matrix.org: same for you 07:35:08
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92I will do another triage now to check if I can identify more sources of aborts just now. But but the next proper fixing session has to wait for the evening. I would do it in a staging environment, but my Aws servers didn't show a lot of the symptoms we are seeing now 07:38:34
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátPosted as https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/issues/1804 https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/issues/180307:39:29
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátFeel free to edit, add info, etc.07:39:41
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátTo recover we simply remove this NAR+narinfo from S3, right?07:43:12
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátAs it's a fixed-output derivation, it should be cheap to "build" locally, and I expect Hydra will fill it up at some point automatically anyway if it will be missing in S3.07:43:47
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Yes.07:44:02
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát * As it's a fixed-output derivation, it should be cheap to "build" locally, and I expect Hydra will fill it up at some point automatically anyway if it will be missing in S3. 07:44:09
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92I have a look at the logs first07:44:16
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92and check if we I can root cause this07:44:20
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátSure. Though removing it from S3 hopefully wouldn't damage these traces.07:44:56
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátIt also seems likely that this wasn't the only damaged NAR.07:45:15
@buterfloro:matrix.orgbuterfloro joined the room.07:45:24
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát(In my experience, most failures do not get reported.)07:45:44
@buterfloro:matrix.orgbuterfloroI've got full logs that I can provide on request, unlike the truncated ones in the Discourse discussion07:46:55
@buterfloro:matrix.orgbuterfloro * I've got full logs on my end that I can provide on request, unlike the truncated ones in the Discourse discussion07:47:14
@k900:0upti.meK900 It's not really going to help much, we know the wrong thing is uploaded 07:48:35
@k900:0upti.meK900 Figuring out why would require looking at infra, not at your system 07:48:47
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát Also the Unsupported system type:
https://github.com/NixOS/hydra/issues/1805
07:53:22
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92thx08:03:10

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