| 28 May 2026 |
 John Ericson | Jeremy Fleischman (jfly): I see https://github.com/freescout-help-desk/freescout/wiki/FAQ/0f09105df588b37a6df9943df9f3579bd08d8b09#how-can-support-team-know-that-there-are-problems-with-sending-emails-and-emails-are-not-being-sent not sure if that is helpful | 17:17:08 |
| John Ericson | doesn't mention showing hte queue either | 17:17:13 |
| John Ericson | maybe that is just waht you did | 17:17:17 |
 Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | i'm sidechanneling with infinisil about this. he found a page where he can manually kick the jobs | 17:30:38 |
| Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | John Ericson, how are things looking now? | 17:32:09 |
| John Ericson | Jeremy Fleischman (jfly): yay sent! | 17:39:51 |
| John Ericson | thank you! | 17:39:52 |
| Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | phew! sorry for the outage. glad things are working again | 17:40:23 |
| John Ericson | no problem! | 17:40:35 |
| John Ericson | it's a php thing, brekage is expected | 17:40:43 |
| John Ericson | the important thing is having a good infra team to fix it when it does :) | 17:40:52 |
| 29 May 2026 |
 mdaniels5757 | Is there a reason the nixos/unstable jobset has evaluations disabled (I assume that's what negative means)? https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixos/unstable#tabs-configuration | 02:34:29 |
 Vladimír Čunát | Negative means manual trigger, yes. | 05:34:53 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Builds for the 26.05 release had priority right now. | 05:35:24 |
| Vladimír Čunát | But I believe it's ready at this point, and we got a nixos/unstable eval. (which is nice, as unstable is still on a 5 days old commit) | 05:41:59 |
|  lassulus changed their profile picture. | 07:06:18 |
|  Skoh joined the room. | 15:38:42 |
 leona | Hetzner will increase prices for new orders starting June 15: https://www.hetzner.com/pressroom/standardization-and-price-adjustment-of-our-server-products/. So likely order now if you need something | 17:21:36 |
 hexa | ax162-r orders are already too expensive with over 1k setup | 17:24:59 |
| hexa | and ampere machines have been unavailable for a long while | 17:25:15 |
| hexa | might order a vm for a new part of infra, if I can allocate one in time | 17:25:37 |
| hexa | tl;dr is we want glitchtip, because we can't really have sentry at home | 17:30:19 |
| hexa | And I want scoped auth and the simplest solution would be a local dex instance | 17:30:51 |
| hexa | But the more interesting solution long-term would be a full idp | 17:31:21 |
| hexa | And I would want that on a dedicated VM tbh | 17:31:39 |
| hexa | Question is: Keycloak vs Authentik | 17:47:15 |
| Jeremy Fleischman (jfly) | I found Keycloak's UI arcane enough that I needed a tool to manage it (I used pulumi, but I imagine terraform would work).
I wouldn't be surprised if Authentik is similar, though. Probably just the nature of the problem space.
| 17:51:57 |
| leona | ideally you know all of the specs by heart if you use keycloak ^^ it's actually much more complicated than the other UIs of the other tools, but it can do anything | 17:57:01 |
| hexa | I have deployed keycloak before, around the Quarkus upgrade. It does offer all the features. | 18:07:56 |
| hexa | But what we mostly need is bridging the gap from where our existing users are. | 18:08:20 |
