| 14 Mar 2026 |
|  amadaluzia -> 4d2.org changed their display name from amadaluzia[uorg] to amadaluzia -> 4d2.org. | 21:22:30 |
| 15 Mar 2026 |
|  eveeifyeve joined the room. | 13:40:03 |
| eveeifyeve | Does anyone know what is blocking this pr: https://github.com/NixOS/cabal2nix/pull/667? Because I would like to get a move along so I can close the opentracing tracking issue. | 13:41:02 |
| eveeifyeve | * sterni: what is blocking this pr: https://github.com/NixOS/cabal2nix/pull/667? Because I would like to get a move along so I can close the opentracing tracking issue. | 13:41:18 |
 sterni (he/him) | I think wolfgang doesn't have the time for it at the moment, but I'm not sure. | 13:42:04 |
| sterni (he/him) | the thing is also that the Haskell opentracing implementation seems to be maintained still (had a release last year) and does not actually depend on any of the upstream opentracing packages. | 13:43:49 |
| sterni (he/him) | so it does not seem to me like it needs to be removed | 13:44:01 |
| eveeifyeve | But the protocol has been deprecated/archived, so it will not work. | 13:48:57 |
| eveeifyeve | * But the protocol has been deprecated/archived for open telemetry, so it will not work. | 13:49:40 |
| eveeifyeve | See https://github.com/opentracing/specification/issues/163 | 13:50:33 |
| eveeifyeve | * See https://github.com/opentracing/specification/issues/163 for more info | 13:50:38 |
| sterni (he/him) | well i mean if you still have an opentracing compatible server and client it will continue to work the same as it used to | 13:55:51 |
| eveeifyeve | Lightstep has been deprecated/archived so that can be removed. I have also opened up an issue upstream: https://github.com/kim/opentracing/issues/55 | 13:56:28 |
| sterni (he/him) | i agree it doesn't make sense to keep maintaining this stuff, but it's also not like anything bad is going to happen if it's still around | 13:56:45 |
| eveeifyeve | But again in nixpkgs, we should not keep stuff that seems like it will go unmaintained in nixpkgs. | 14:06:02 |
| eveeifyeve | One reason to remove the opentracing stuff is unmaintained, https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/blob/master/rfcs/0180-broken-package-removal.md#unmaintained-packages | 14:37:36 |
| sterni (he/him) | that definition doesn't even have anything to do with upstream maintenance | 15:54:51 |
 aiya | Redacted or Malformed Event | 18:55:02 |
| aiya | Redacted or Malformed Event | 18:55:13 |
| 16 Mar 2026 |
 maralorn | sterni: If we switch to nightly that means going to ghc 9.12, right? | 10:35:06 |
| maralorn | Is that safe in regards to the whole miscompilation thingy? | 10:35:22 |
| maralorn | e.g. do we maybe want to wait for 9.12.4? | 10:35:36 |
| sterni (he/him) | We patched that in 9.12.3, but we could also wait for 9.12.4 | 10:35:48 |
| sterni (he/him) | Maybe it is sensible to wait for the next HLS release (which is coming soon right?) and the update | 10:36:47 |
| maralorn | I don’t know. I am not aware of immediate plans. | 10:41:29 |
| maralorn | It seems likely that they would want to make a release after 9.12.4 to provide binaries. | 10:41:48 |
| maralorn | But I also wouldn’t be other than from it being discussed on the hls matrix channel. | 10:44:38 |
| sterni (he/him) | I just saw new versions of lsp and lsp-types so I assumed that was the reason | 10:44:58 |
| sterni (he/him) | in any case, most stuff I had on my mind we can do with LTS is done, what remains are things like pandoc 3.9 which are probably best addressed by jumping to nightly | 10:46:42 |
| sterni (he/him) | Also if anyone is interested in trying out 9.12.4-rc1 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/500108 | 11:10:27 |
