| 14 Oct 2024 |
 alexfmpe | or 99.9 ? | 19:12:05 |
| alexfmpe | guess 12.2 is the first plausible "uh oh" ? | 19:12:46 |
 Tristan Ross | In reply to @maralorn:maralorn.de
Well, the problem is that I wrote that policy in an attempt to shortcut the survey thing, in the hope that it would reach the same people. Yeah, a policy based on a survey would be best. Has there been any updates on getting a survey out? | 19:13:21 |
 hellwolf | Also, this is my new observation:
(haskell.compiler.${ghcVer}.override { enableDocs = false; }) triggers a cache miss, I guess the nix expression is not optimal in that docs disabled shouldn't cause a rebuild ghcVer from the previous ghcVer
| 19:31:42 |
| hellwolf | * Also, this is my new observation:
(haskell.compiler.${ghcVer}.override { enableDocs = false; }) triggers a cache miss, I guess the nix expression is not optimal in that docs disabled shouldn't cause a rebuild ghcVer from the previous ghcVer.
Downloading everything is still better than rebuilding.. so I fallback
| 19:32:16 |
| hellwolf | * Also, this is my new observation:
(haskell.compiler.${ghcVer}.override { enableDocs = false; }) triggers a cache miss, I guess the nix expression is not optimal in that docs disabled shouldn't cause a rebuild ghcVer from the previous ghcVer.
Downloading more from cache is still better than rebuilding.. so I fallback
| 19:32:36 |
| hellwolf | * Also, this is my new observation:
(haskell.compiler.${ghcVer}.override { enableDocs = false; }) mises the cache, I guess the nix expression is not optimal in that docs disabled shouldn't cause a rebuild ghcVer from the previous ghcVer.
Downloading more from cache is still better than rebuilding.. so I fallback
| 19:32:57 |
| hellwolf | * Also, this is my new observation:
(haskell.compiler.${ghcVer}.override { enableDocs = false; }) mises the cache -> I guess the nix expression is not optimal in that docs disabled shouldn't cause a rebuild ghcVer from the previous ghcVer.
Downloading more from cache is still better than rebuilding.. so I fallback
| 19:33:01 |
 fgaz | hellwolf: I recently wrote https://sr.ht/~fgaz/get-tested4nix/ to automate this kind of setup, you might find it useful | 19:35:48 |
 emily | In reply to @hellwolf:matrix.org
Also, this is my new observation:
(haskell.compiler.${ghcVer}.override { enableDocs = false; }) mises the cache -> I guess the nix expression is not optimal in that docs disabled shouldn't cause a rebuild ghcVer from the previous ghcVer.
Downloading more from cache is still better than rebuilding.. so I fallback
what you want would require ca-derivations at the least | 19:40:20 |
| emily | or, hm, maybe i misunderstand | 19:40:30 |
| hellwolf | In reply to @fgaz:matrix.org
hellwolf: I recently wrote https://sr.ht/~fgaz/get-tested4nix/ to automate this kind of setup, you might find it useful Very cool, I will check it out. | 19:47:00 |
| hellwolf | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
what you want would require ca-derivations at the least what I meant is that I expected the docs and the binary are independent derivations, and the parent derivation simply combines them. Hence, when I don't want docs, it shouldn't trigger a rebuild of the ghc binary. | 19:48:29 |
| emily | right | 19:49:12 |
| emily | I don't know how easy GHC's build system makes that | 19:49:18 |
 maralorn | In reply to @alexfmpe:matrix.org
guess 12.2 is the first plausible "uh oh" ? Huh, I guess we need to lobby ghchq to bump to 10 before 9.20. 😄 | 20:07:25 |
| alexfmpe | I just want non associative versioning | 20:08:46 |
| alexfmpe | How hard can it be to add _ or whatever delimiter | 20:09:09 |
| maralorn | Well, no that hard. But probably harder than convincing upstream that it would be pain. 😄 | 20:09:43 |
| maralorn | No, we should probably just do it. I actually even had a reasonable replacement strategy. It just would need to be implemented. | 20:10:40 |
| maralorn | * Well, not that hard. But probably harder than convincing upstream that it would be pain. 😄 | 20:10:48 |
| hellwolf | what would make GHC 10 instaed of GHC 9? | 20:12:12 |
| hellwolf | maybe that would be the right timing for cleaning up this technical debt? | 20:12:27 |
| emily | In reply to @alexfmpe:matrix.org
How hard can it be to add _ or whatever delimiter FWIW, pkg-name_ver_sion is the Nixpkgs standard | 20:13:39 |
| emily | but of course many things do not follow it | 20:13:44 |
| emily | it's documented in the manual | 20:13:46 |
| emily | so ghc_8_10 is "the right thing" | 20:13:58 |
| hellwolf | ghc10 is probably when ghc is basically agda | 20:14:36 |
| emily | In reply to @maralorn:maralorn.de
Huh, I guess we need to lobby ghchq to bump to 10 before 9.20. 😄 (hey, another reason to ditch those old GHCs before they collide, no? :p ) | 20:14:41 |
| maralorn | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
(hey, another reason to ditch those old GHCs before they collide, no? :p ) I think even having the same attribute used for a completely different version in living memory would be a sin. | 20:15:47 |
